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Forum nameAuto Trans- A604
Topic subjectAutostick conversion thing....interesting
Topic URLhttp://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=33&topic_id=2660
2660, Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by 95GSEclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I saw this on ebay...thought you auto guys might be interested becuase ive heard you guys trying to do this...you might want to check it out http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33727&item=2467020736
2661, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by MetalJim, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Cool - somebody figured it out.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.7 @ 87.9mph
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2662, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by Malenko, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
and are trying to make a sizable profit in it as well.

lets team up and buy one...ONE and then let the brains at 2gnt.com duplicate it for the rest of us.
2663, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by mcgyvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Malenko
and are trying to make a sizable profit in it as well. lets team up and buy one...ONE and then let the brains at 2gnt.com duplicate it for the rest of us.


its already been figured out.
just no one has done it yet.


2664, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by python6586, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
yea but from what i understand in reading in the auto section we havent figured out how to incorperate that mode switch that pretty much tells the tcu that we will be doin the shiftin and it doesnt have to worry about it. because if we just left it in L and manually upshifted to second with our momentary switches before redline the tcu will just downshift again and will always try to keep it in the lowest possible gear. we need somthing to cancel out the tcu's signal to shift when we want to do the shifting ourself.


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2665, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
OMG I want this...

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, turbo xs rfl, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

2666, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by GhEttOrAiD, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
$160 to render your automatic transmission not-lame isn't bad at all when you think about it... I mean... when compared to some useless nonfunctional ricer part this is a great deal...!
2667, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by SPL_Eclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
why exactly would this be necissary. i dont know about you, but i can control the gear with throttle pressure. besides, isnt the computer shifting faster than you could manually? so whats the point? guess im missing somthing. :shrug

BTW, yes, this has been tossed around for a while now, i remember reading a post at ASOG about a year ago concerning it.
2668, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by alain95i4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
By reading the auction I have the feeling that their computer will connect directly to the solenoid pack to activate them instead of telling the TCM to do it

if they did it that way I hope the implemented the modulation of the solenoids that the real tcm do when you change gears

Alain
2669, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by 95GSEclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
ya i found something good i guess.
2670, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by BlueMoonEclipse, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Hmmm you might be onto something there...because it does seem it just opens and closes solenoids on its own (notice that it works even when TCU dies?)...now this for the 604 might be good or bad depending your perspective...arent 1-2 shift and 3-4 suposed to have a modulation between shifts to make em smooth? yes performancewise the slip might be bad but dont know how good it is for our trans...

BTW the Auto is still faster than Stick (even in auto stick mode...once you shift stick a lot you should be shifting really fast though...but watch out with missed shifts) cause your brain still dosent need to do the following: accelerator release and modulate, clutch depress, gear select, clutch drop/modulate, accel....while auto stick is....press button......thats it (yah its not triptronic but oh well)

2671, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by DSMeclipseGS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Hey guys, I am seriously thinking about buying this. Is anyone in the NJ area willing to help me install it if you're good with electronics?

EDIT: Oh yea... it ends in 4 HOURS (as of 7:30 PM Saturday) so let me know quick. Doesnt really look like a scam and like ^^^ said it interests me that the stock TCU can die and it will still work... hmmmm.
2672, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by alain95i4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
it's probably not a scam
actually a basic tranny controller could be build with a $5 micro-controller and maybe $20 more of parts

it won't have the intelligence of the OEM unit but the goal here is just to drive 4 solenoids in a very stupid pattern

so go for it

Alain
2673, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Someone buy it and tell us if it works, so I can email the dude to get more :).

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, turbo xs rfl, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

2674, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by Malenko, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
so... who bought it?
2676, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by nappyjim, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
bigpoppapump1173 won the auction.

is this anyone from 2gnt?
2697, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by ajna_star, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by DSMeclipseGS
Hey guys, I am seriously thinking about buying this. Is anyone in the NJ area willing to help me install it if you're good with electronics? EDIT: Oh yea... it ends in 4 HOURS (as of 7:30 PM Saturday) so let me know quick. Doesnt really look like a scam and like ^^^ said it interests me that the stock TCU can die and it will still work... hmmmm.


im in NJ, hit me up on aim-> ajnast4r

2765, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
If this doesnt work someone with brains should just goto a junk yard and disect a totalled 3G. I don't know shit about trannys and technical stuff but what are the difference between the 95-99 tranny and 00+ tranny. What specifically gives the 00+ the autoshift feature.
2787, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by 97whitESi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
^^ wouldnt that be a mitsu tranny? and therfor differnt
2677, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by Vigo, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
"yea but from what i understand in reading in the auto section we havent figured out how to incorperate that mode switch"

look at me im about to babble to myself because clearly no matter how many times i say this it will never get through to anyone here:

THERE IS NO SWITCH

the tcm determines whether or not you are in autostick by reading the TRS signal. the trs basically reads your shifters position. so in either 2 or L, if you put in an autostick TCM, one of those will BECOME autostick. there is no SWITCH to speak of. simply move your shifter to the appropriate gate and then use a switch to up/down shift. voila! for the 12th time..







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2678, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
dsmeclipse of 2gnt is bigpapapump.

Hope this does work :).

-------jezreel
hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, turbo xs rfl, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

2696, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by DSMeclipseGS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by jsupetran
dsmeclipse of 2gnt is bigpapapump. Hope this does work :). -------jezreel hrc stage 1, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, turbo xs rfl, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!! thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup


Yea... I won it. Let's see how it works. I am at college right now so I'll try to put it in the day i get home. Anyone of u guys going to the NJ Englishtown shootout in April? I'll be there, so you can see it there, or if i can install it ill bring it.
2940, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by Keith2172, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Did you get that thing installed yet, bump.
2950, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by mcgyvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Keith2172
Did you get that thing installed yet, bump.


dont install it, return it, trust me your tranny will hate you...

2951, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by Keith2172, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Wow, thats a negative respose, whats the thing do? Does it pound gears or screw up the fluid flow? And is there anything positive we could use off of it for our cars?
2954, RE: Autostick conversion thing....interesting
Posted by mcgyvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
it doesnt take into account clutch volume indexes,and lots more.
it will work the solenoids but our TCU will actually change how the solenoids open to account for wear,etc..
its not safe and why do it when for under 10 bucks you can do the autostick mod and have the TCU control shifting correctly
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