i have a bunch of 420a engines all remanufactured buy Import Engine Specialties they are all .020 over with new pistons and ring clevite bearings, blocks have been shotblasted,tapped,decked,boredand honed. cylinder heads have been cleaned,decked,tapped,new guides,valves,locks, retainers,valve job.come with new water pump,idlers,oil pump,and gasket kits. i also have a few with je pistons and rings,eagle h-beam rods,melling oil pumps,arp bolts,copper headgasket,cylinder heads have been mildly ported,and camshafts and gears are available. you can have any combination of parts to meet your needs. ALL engines have been sim tested to be sure nothing is wrong. a sim tester is a machine that you bolt the engine to and the machine turns the engine over at a low 500 rpm (average) to check for problems. it also lets the pick up tube suck up hot oil to check oil pressure and so on. price on a stock long block is $2400. built engines are around $3500-$4200 depending on what you want(with core charge). group buys will get you even better deals. i worked at the place that built them for almost 10 years tho i don't anymore i do still deal with them alot. they have specailized in import engines for over 20 years and have done alot with 4g63's but are now seeing the 420A as a good base for making big horsepower.so trust they have been built buy pro's. as soon as there web site is fixed i with post that too.

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sounds lile a total rip.

Originally posted by grain
sounds lile a total rip.

i was thinking the same thing. those prices are way too damn high.

Yea you can build that same block your talking about for about $1550. Please don't try to rip us off.

Werd, that's waaay too high..I'd never pay over 3k for a built engine. And what's $2400 for a stock rebuilt engine, I bought my used one for $600. For that price it should include an install.



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hmm have you guys ever called a GOOD machine shop and asked them how much they charge to assemble an engine. Parts alone are well over $1200 not including machining, balancing, decking and so on. Your looking to spend around 2-2.5k for an awesome engine. I can't speak for the work of this guy but really you guys are kinda unrealistic on prices for engine building! My engine is near bulletproof and it cost a little more than that for everything and the install.

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$4200 for a built long block??? Hhhhmmmmm. I assume this includes a ported head, performance valve springs, ti retainers, and performance camshafts. Right?

well i know we can build up a real nice long block for around 2k.. it all depends on whatparts are used

nice long block for $2000???? who does your machine work? what parts are used? who built it? $2000 shit guys if you can get a built long block for $2000 you better start buying them up.

yes of corse that includes a fully built,balanced,and blue printed bottom end. a cylinder head that is ported with some goodies. i don't want to get into to much detail because we will build to suit your needs so price will vary. $4200 is a round about figure. could be less depending on what your looking for. i have pictures if anyone is interested please email me, if not than shut up! how can you compare a $600 USED stock engine to a professionally built engine? michaellindsay@att.net thank you

thank you, i wasn't going to even bother to reply to these cheap ass people. if they want to put a set of pistons and rods in their engine and call it BUILT then screw them i just with they wouldn't distract others from buying a REAL engine.

callin people cheap because they think your products are overpriced is a real good way to get customers :rolleyes

Originally posted by injendsm
callin people cheap because they think your products are overpriced is a real good way to get customers :rolleyes

Seriously...I bet hes going to get a lot of business talking like that (sarcastically), I love it when I hear business owners/employess talk rude to their customers...I always just tell myself "Wow, that company is going to go far...."



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Originally posted by injendsm
callin people cheap because they think your products are overpriced is a real good way to get customers :rolleyes

calling my product over priced and posting when you don't have anything intelligent to say is a good way to get under my skin.i'm sorry if i hurt anyone's feelings. i really wasn't looking for this kind of feedback on this so please if you don't have a serious question or at least something positive to say please don't reply.

what parts are avialable?

Originally posted by Scandelous
what parts are avialable?

basiclly any part that is available for the 420A. je,ross,com cams,crane,eagle,arp bla,bla,bla you tell me what your looking for and i'll see if i can help. thank you.

what a fucking rip off

Here's a serious question or two:

1) Can you provide an itemized list of exact parts, and exact labor charges included in the $4000 built engine?

2) Is there a warranty on this "real" built engine?

3) What is the business street address, phone number, contact name, and resellers license number of the company selling this product?


Considering you're trying to sell a product for more than I paid for two entire 2G eclipses... you shouldn't be suprised that people are shocked at your prices.

FWIW, my machinist may not be as good as yours, but they managed to provide me all the above information, 5 perfectly running engines so far... all for less than $200 labor per engine. Parts for each engine were all under $2000.

Originally posted by thedawg
Here's a serious question or two: 1) Can you provide an itemized list of exact parts, and exact labor charges included in the $4000 built engine? 2) Is there a warranty on this "real" built engine? 3) What is the business street address, phone number, contact name, and resellers license number of the company selling this product? Considering you're trying to sell a product for more than I paid for two entire 2G eclipses... you shouldn't be suprised that people are shocked at your prices. FWIW, my machinist may not be as good as yours, but they managed to provide me all the above information, 5 perfectly running engines so far... all for less than $200 labor per engine. Parts for each engine were all under $2000.

i'm not going to list the parts, but i will give you Import Engine Specialties phone# you can talk to the owner. his name is Mark he will go through all the details with you from parts and labor charges down his resellers licence number if you really want. their is a warranty on a stock engines but as far as perfomance built engines you will have to discuss that with him i know i will not warranty anything that has plans for high boost with no idea who's tuning it. think about it. anyway here is the # 518-638-5570. $200 for labor is a good price but what did they give you for that? i just got 2 2gnt's for $900 so that dosen't say much too me.

I agree with theDawg and the others. The prices that you posted is a bit on the high side. List the items and labor of this built block, then you can list the price.

We do not doubt the quality of the work, we only want evidence.

Oh by the way, VT built block was about 1000 less than your listed price. VT has gained a very good reputation, by providing proof.

Not saying it is a rip off, but You get the idea...

Ok, here is my 2 cents.


Noone will follow up on this unless they are just curious.
Noone on this board is going to buy a 4000 dollar block when they can get a perfect, proven, built performance block from VT or FTY.

I am too damn lazy to call YOU up for something YOU'RE trying to advertise. Want to buy my $20,000 eclipse? Its really nice I promise. Even though you can get the same car for 900. :shrug


Clarify, put effort into your posts or don't even bother defending yourself.

although i think your prices are pretty high compared to whats out there, i think you have a good idea and good luck. but seriously, dont try to sell shit like that here. The mods are the biggest flamers(not meaning gay:)) on here for cryin out loud! anyways, see if you can do something about the prices and provide some proof!