with the g tech and the proper weight in ... (yes i factored myself the gas and what i did to the car ).. but i didnt factor in the pulley and intake .. i hit 16.7 ... so its not that reliable ... my baby is quick though ... i raced a board member named kahn (manual).. not saber kahn .. we both had boggy starts .. and he got me by a car length he had intake pulley gst muff and suspension .. and when we were on the road rolling 25 up to 75 we were dead even i just got the jump or he didnt realise we were going ... no gain from him.. no pull from me but he stayed one car behind me.. so i aint toooo bad .. a stock manual i could beat .. but most the cars in nyc are autos