Around here eclipses are very rare.. especially 2g's of any type for that matter.. almost every eclipse there is around here its almost always an AT.. i was just curious who would pull out the win when its my mt against a turbo at ??? i persoanlly would think it would be close but i'm not too sure.. thanx

I would still say the AT would win. There's a good chance you could beat him in a good portion of the beginning, especially the launch. But stock for stock the turbo's got 70 more HP and would catch up easily. That's what I would think.

i agree with^^^. You might get out a little lead at the beginnig b/c of manual tranny, but the GST top end will smack you silly.