There are quite a few people on here who are more than capable of being in the 12's easy. But the problem is that most dont have the proper setup to get good times at the track..eg LSD's, strong axles, right suspension setup, and a good set of slicks. That and launching/driving skill could be lacking :) Ha I can't launch my car for shit..it's just not set up for a hard launch. Hopefully that will change once i get my new clutch and LSD put in.