My car didn't even come with a radio when it was new. I went to have my shitty old Lanzar 12s installed with my old school Pioneer Premier flip down face deck (this was back in 1996, kids) and the car turned out to have speakers in it from the factory, even if you didn't get a radio. Sweet.

The system was stolen. It was replaced. The new system was stolen as well. No longer see the point. I don't like buying fucking thieves new equipment. :shrug I've got a box full of random 6x9s, 5.5s, 5.25s and tweets for the dash from Pioneer, Clarion and Alpine. They just collect dust on top of my parts car in the garage for now. Oh well.

Arguing over who's stereo system is the loudest, and doing so without spelling half the words you type correctly, is really weak. That's the sort of thing that keeps really smart people from wanting to participate.