Well due my most recent problem with my headunit, I am forced to buy an amp sooner than I expected. I am looking at a 5 Channel Eclipse amp. Keep in mind when checking out the specs that I only plan on doing a small system this time and I am aiming for SQ, nothing fancy just want crisp clean sound with a single 12" Aluminum Eclipse Sub wish handles 500watts RMS



Eclipse 36501

The Specs
125W 4 Channel + 460W 1 Channel
Max. Power Output at 2 Stereo
70W 4 Channel + 280W 1 Channel
0.1% THD at 2 Stereo,
20– 20,000Hz@13.8V (RMS Continuous Power)
50W 4 Channel + 200W 1 Channel
0.1% THD at 4W Stereo, 20– 20,000Hz@13.8V
(RMS Continuous Power)
ChannelFlex Crossover Adjustable
High-Pass Crossover (12dB/octave, 50–200Hz) for Front & 120Hz (Fix) for Rear Independently Adjustable
Low-Pass Crossover (12dB/octave, 50–200Hz)
Free-Flow Signal Circuit
Double-Sided PCB
High-Current, High-Speed Output Devices
High-Efficiency, High-Energy MOSFET Power Supply
Audiophile Grade Component Selection
Intelligent 7-Way Discrete Protection Circuitry
Music Reproduction with Low Distortion & Ultra-Low Negative Feedback
Efficient Cooling with Low-Profile Heatsink
Multi-Mode Configuration
Stereo/Mono Switch
2 Stable Design

I'd run it :)

Thank you sir, do you think that the sub would be way underpowered with this amp or should half the wattage be sufficient enough.

OH shit I didn't read that well LOL

It will be okay for a nice calm SQ system, don't expect to rattle anyone's windows but for 1 sub and 4 good component sets it will sound good.

Should I throw components in the rears too? Or dont even bother.

dont even bother.

I have components all the way around (well, DID) but I always have the rears toned way down. Most guys put a 6.5 coaxial in the rear. If you're really going for SQ then you should be running a mono signal to your rear inputs on that 4 channel amp that has been run through a high/lowpass filter running in the range of 1500hz to 10khz. The rears are only for "fill" and putting a midrange pass to them at mono will make your front sound stage jump out at you brilliantly.

Yea, I hear you.. If I can tune the fronts good to provide the vocals louder than I will just throw the backs on mono. I'm hoping I can. I have 5.25 up front so they have been distorting at high volume so I been setting the volume back on them. They don't handle rap music that well, but I'm sure it will get better when I have the backs filling in more.

Originally posted by a_miller_76
will make your front sound stage jump out at you brilliantly.

this is the hef's statement of the year by Aaron.

lol even though hes right he sounded like christopher lowell of the audio world

Originally posted by madhatter210

Originally posted by a_miller_76 will make your front sound stage jump out at you brilliantly.

this is the hef's statement of the year by Aaron. lol even though hes right he sounded like christopher lowell of the audio world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/prism278/rob/boxlowell.jp g

"Brilliant" is a term used in the car audio industry meaning crisp highs and extremely defined stereo positioning. It has nothing to do with Christopher Lowell shouting "fabulous" constantly.


And you're calling me hef yet you're the one who thought of Christopher Lowell while I'm talking about car stereo equipment? :wary

Originally posted by a_miller_76

Originally posted by madhatter210

Originally posted by a_miller_76 will make your front sound stage jump out at you brilliantly.

this is the hef's statement of the year by Aaron. lol even though hes right he sounded like christopher lowell of the audio world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/prism278/rob/boxlowell.jp g

"Brilliant" is a term used in the car audio industry meaning crisp highs and extremely defined stereo positioning. It has nothing to do with Christopher Lowell shouting "fabulous" constantly. And you're calling me hef yet you're the one who thought of Christopher Lowell while I'm talking about car stereo equipment? :wary

yea yea but you added a( Y ) and that made you christopher lowell
read that in the best brilliantly lisp you can muster

Stop taking my post off topic by calling aaron a hef.. lol.. Keep my shit on topic!

Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR
Stop taking my post off topic by calling aaron a hef.. lol.. Keep my shit on topic!

your right, christopher *cough* *cough* Aaron was right the front is where your at, let it be crisp(<---non hef term). I tend to tune it for what im listening to alot, as what I listen to changes with my mood.

Personally i think you should go with the Kicker kx600.1

Mono amp -600 watts@2ohm
Fan cooled
Remote Bass Controll
Frequency Response-20Hz-20kHz

Originally posted by whttalon95
Personally i think you should go with the Kicker kx600.1 Mono amp -600 watts@2ohm Fan cooled Remote Bass Controll Frequency Response-20Hz-20kHz

He wants quality, not boom. When you grow up you stop caring about shaking others out of their cars.

Originally posted by a_miller_76

Originally posted by whttalon95 Personally i think you should go with the Kicker kx600.1 Mono amp -600 watts@2ohm Fan cooled Remote Bass Controll Frequency Response-20Hz-20kHz

He wants quality, not boom. When you grow up you stop caring about shaking others out of their cars.

Aaron you could'nt have said it any better. lol.. Thats exactly what happened with me. I decided to grow up but still want decent quality sound.

k sorry bout that, in that case, i would still run two different amps one, mainly for the sub, and one just for the mids. For the mids i would recomend a kicker kx650.4 which has 170 watts per channel at 2 Ohm, and for mild bass with the eclipse sub i would still recomend a mono amp, maybe a kicker kx400.1 which has 400 watts at 2 ohms, but if your sub is dual voice coil and 2 ohm you could run the sub into one ohm stable which would probably end up being about perfect for what you are looking for??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4950&item=5772289480

Just bought that awhile back. Its very nice.

Thats a nice amp James. But whenever I do the system again I want a 5 channel, one amp that i can mount in one spot and have it run one sub and my speakers and components. I want something clean for next time that wont take alot of space.

Actually, I have that 4 channel amp running my fronts, rears, and sub.

Works fine and is very loud. Granted the ohms are a little fuckered, but i dont give a shit. Im not trying to win anything.

I have the regular speakers running from the front channel and i have my one JL 10w3 bridged off channels 3 and 4.

Works great.

Must be a pain in the ass the way you have that wired though, like if you want to fade or tweak things correctly

Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR
Must be a pain in the ass the way you have that wired though, like if you want to fade or tweak things correctly

i dont need to fade at all. for some reason the components i chose sound perfect with each other.

mb quart gold series fronts, eclipse rears.

Originally posted by siueclipse

Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR Must be a pain in the ass the way you have that wired though, like if you want to fade or tweak things correctly

i dont need to fade at all. for some reason the components i chose sound perfect with each other. mb quart gold series fronts, eclipse rears.

You probably have a lower efficiency speaker in the rear which would make them play at a lower volume.

Originally posted by a_miller_76

Originally posted by siueclipse

Originally posted by EclipseTenzoR Must be a pain in the ass the way you have that wired though, like if you want to fade or tweak things correctly

i dont need to fade at all. for some reason the components i chose sound perfect with each other. mb quart gold series fronts, eclipse rears.

You probably have a lower efficiency speaker in the rear which would make them play at a lower volume.

no way dude, the eclipse speakers i bought were top of the line along with the quarts.

I don't think he is saying the speakers are garbage, because i dont think that is even possible for MB Quart or Eclipse to make garbage. lol.. I just think he means that the ratings on the rear speakers may be putting out less than the fronts, or some kind of technacality like that. Thats Awesome though, I've always admired the work you've done with your Eclipse, its simply amazing