> But I really don't like the alarm LED like
>that. With the DEI alarms, you can actually remove the LED
>from that red plastic cover and just drill a small hole (can't
>remember the size) and pressure fit the LED in the panel for a
>flush mount. Looks way better IMO. The LED is actually
>clear, but lights up red. Very stealthy! :thumbsup

Hehe, ahh yes, I knew I wasnt the only one who does that! I put mine like that in a blank right by my center vents..i think that one was for the rear wiper..well i dont have one :) As for alarms, stay away from Bulldog stuff..nothing but problems with that stuff. I install DEI products every day, and love it. But you must remember, an alarm system is ONLY as good as it is INSTALLED!! All wiring, sirens, and the brain should be hidden as good as possible, to avoid it being bypassed by a potential jerk off :o Viper stuff is great, and has MANY options you can add to them, and many features that can be programed by your DEI dealer. If you have the cash, check out DEI's new two way transponder systems. They are a full remote start and alarm combo unit, and has a LCD transmitter that shows a diagram of a car. It will page you when the car is started, if the alarm goes off, which part of the car was violated( hood, trunk, doors, shock sensor) up to a 1/4 mile away! I have the Python version of this on my car and i love it. Retail installed will run anywhere from 400-600 depending on where you are and the shop. Some neat toys that can be hooked up to the alarm-- a motion sensor, glass breakage sensor, power window rollup and down, and more. I guess the best advise i can give, is if you go to a shop, talk to the installer personnaly. Tell him you want a sweet install, and to hide things as good as he can.