well i got everything, now i will install it tomorrow and make a write up. when i am done. i wil takes pics and post them.
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Please do. I was looking at those just a little bit ago. If I can ask, how much did you pay for both and where did you get them?

Greg

'19 Genesis G70 3.3t AWD
'88 Chrysler Conquest TSI

i paid 1040 for everything, i mean everything, all the harnesses pressure sensors and the likes. i got it from http://mkiv.com/tmp/emanage/
he has the best prices by far, and the best support.
his name is Mohd, he has a supra.
from my understanding, there are only 100 e-01's in the states currently. i think the official release date is september 03
Mohd has like 4 or 5 left. he had 10 originally.

hehe
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Dude, I gotta get away from the house tomorrow some time, I wanna see that thing in action.... KAISER I'M COMMIN' TO GET YOU TOO!!!

He can't say he can't go if I tie him up and throw him in the trunk.

-Danny


" We cannot appeal to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep. " Carl von Ossiet

Cool James, let us know because I just may go that route if you have some good success. I orderd the 2.2L yesterday so I'll be with you big boys soon.

I edited to the wiki!

ahh james, you did not tell me your installing that tommorow. all i knew was that your working on your car. dame if your doing that im coming down hehe.. got my car running, i think ? hehe.. but my coolant gauge is still mess up.. let me know what time your starting
ho ho
hehe
Michael 99gs
HRC Stage 2
Stage 3 process begins gathering parts for rebuild

http://www.dreamwater.net/purplebeast

Same place I got mine. Good luck with the install.

05 Mazda RX-8
06 Lotus Elise

Dude, James, Where is the update?? 2 days and no update... Did you break something? How far did you get on saturday?

-Danny


" We cannot appeal to the conscience of the world when our own conscience is asleep. " Carl von Ossiet

yea.. id really like to hear/see your progress... cant wait for the next so cal meet

^^what once was^^


^^what is now.. and permanently^^

it went in smoothly, works really good, much better than the afc. i'll make a writeup tomorrow with more detail.
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

hey james, sorry man i did not stop by yesterday or today. had to go see the eye doctor today because my eyes got infected. so did mr. 4psi of boost come to your house today? hehe... i gotta check your setup out, if you explain it to me i might get it if it works out really good for you. ..
cool
Michael 99gs
HRC Stage 2
Stage 3 process begins gathering parts for rebuild

http://www.dreamwater.net/purplebeast

Thats very cool Jamesman.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

well, all went in smoothly, i worked out all the internal settings on the emanage, i hooked up the emanage and the profec e01, i did not hook up the injector harness or the ignition harness yet, that's going to happen next weekend.

Initially, without any tuning, i can tell that the e-manage works better than the AFC, i think the processor may be faster. One great feature, if you are going to run bigger injectors, you can just input the old injector size and then input the new injector size and the emanage will automatically calculate the correction if you use the same fuel pressure. it is quite cool.
The profec is also super cool, you can completely control al the emanage features from this unit.
the fuel map is 16x16 so that makes 256 points of corection. the thing i noticed and thought was one of the coolest things was that you don't have to guess what point you are making correction to. for example, the fuel map is this big grid with all these numbers. being that you have all these TPS percentages on the vertical scale and rpm's on the horizontal it would be kind of hard to know exactly where you are at when you are tuning. the nice thing is that on this 16x16 grid, one box is always highlighted and this box is continuously moving so say you are driving at 2500 rpm and the TPS is at 20% the correponding box will be highlighted so you know exactly which point to tune. it is excellent! i am going to hook up the injector harness sometime this week and make the unit even more powerful!
you can also input several analog or digital inputs and have them set up as you please. I think you may possibly hook the unit up to a knock sensor and monitor the knock voltages and set alarms when the voltage meets a certain value. this would be a great monitor! Another feature I like ALOT is the fact that you can monitor the Incoming TPS voltage and the outgoing TPS voltage to see exactly what the correction is.
Well that's all for now
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James

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Yes Mr 4psi was there. the e-manage is cool. I will need to get one as well...eventually.

thanx James for cutting and grinding down the pipe. Owe you one. Now just the oil leak...heheheh

-K-

If this is that good at giving precise tuning and monitorimg the engine=no more blown engine, hell I want to get one too.

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"Tell them of us and say,
For their tomorrow,
We gave our today."
-- The Kohima Epitaph

:::::new update::::
I just went messing around and the car runs so rediculously good!
Before when i was using the afc, I would get slight detonation at 0 psi, and then a little more at about 13 psi no matter how rich i tuned it i would still get it. I changed gas from chevron to shell and most of the 0 psi det went away, but not all gone. now with the emanage all the detonation is gone. and guess what! On my way into work, i wanted to see how high i could get the boost without detonation. before i was limited to around 14~15 psi today i went to 18 and still not detonation! Every time now after i make a WOT run I can feel myself shaking from the adrenaline. all i have to say is this unit is great!
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

God, I just spent another $500 I don't have (in my head)....I'm glad wishing for things doesn't go on your credit card...LOL

sounds very cool man, actually makes me question deciding on the 8-injector setup over the emanage, heh :/

oh well, theres been a lot of success w/ the 8 injector setups, but the e-manage unit is really nice

sounds good, keep us updated as things come up

95 Avenger
ATX->MTX Swap
Holset HX40 @ 26 psi

Oh, he forgot to include that the emanage/profec setup apparently keeps the wastegate 100% closed until it needs to open. Even tho he's using the same exact actuator setup the car has instant full boost. INSTANT FULL BOOST.

From just playing with it for a few minutes at idle, it seemed to me like a really really smart SAFC. I'm just now learning how to tune, so the SAFC seems complicated at the moment. But for anyone wishing they could tune at 2150rpm, this is for you. The grid setup is great, like the 2-D bar graph safc setup, but in 3-D because it's on 2 axis.

I think the injector harness with timing and pulse width mucking will be the real showstopper for this thing. But James already has a MSD so its a little complicated.

Downside: James still hasn't figured out how to display "Danger to Manifold" or "Stage 1 Complete" on it.

Correct me if i am wrong, but you are doing Throttle position versus RPM?

Shouldnt you be doing Boost vs. RPM? Throttle position means shit in a boost car. I hope it has boost input....

I can be doing 10psi with 1/2 throttle and 2 psi with full throttle.

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AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

This all sounds very nice. With this option out now, I definitely think it's worth everyone taking this as a serious fueling option. I just wish that e-o1 boost controller with that sharp LCD screen didnt cost an arm and a leg!

Nice review!

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

hi,James
Its good to hear u running well. BTW, how big is your injectors? I was also thinking about the e-manage,but the e-manage feature said it just can control up 150% larger than the stock one. so that means 235cc * 150% = 352.5 is the largest size u can use? cuz I got confused here..

Eric

The largest theoretical size you can use is a 580cc. As for the maps Kiku, The emanage can use its own pressure sensor with the additional injector harness and allows you the set fuel accordingly based on boost. It will allow you to set a soft voltage clamp on the stock map sensor as well. It all works extremely well.

05 Mazda RX-8
06 Lotus Elise

Okay,
I hooked up the injector harness today. This does allow you to tune with boost. The main fuel map is TP vs RPM, The injector map is BOOST vs RPM this allows you to add more pulsewidth to the standard injector duty cycle. so say the ecu puts 1 mS of injector time, then i choose to add 1 more Ms, then the total Open time of the injector is 2mS. It is rather cool. Also after i hooked up the injector harness i can now monitor injector Duty cycle, duration and total duty cycle and total duration. i really like this unit, the more i plug in the more data i can monitor. currently i can monitor rpm, tps, MAP in, Map out, boost, normal duty cycle, normal duration, total duty cycle, total duration, boost control solenoid duty cycle, and ignition timing added or subtracted. Like Chris said, There are also programmable limit clamps, so that means that if you have an 96-99 you can just set the voltage clamp for the Map sensor and the unit will not let the ecu see any more than what you tell it to. so no more vc2 or missing link. I fortunately have a 95 so i don;t have to worry about it. other uses that i have found for this is a way to raise your idle a little. you can also input a minimum voltage clamp, so theoretically you can modify the TPS voltage to fine tune your idle. I am going to get the auxiliary signal harness and make a knock alarm for the unit. the unit is quite powerful. i really like it. right now i am having a little problem with my boost fluttering a little bit at wot. when it reaches peak boost it is a little unstable right now. i am going to mess with the gain and see if it smoothes thngs out. The boost control is great though, i have not used a boost controller with as sharp a rise rate. this thing keeps the wastegate closed until a certain value, and you can input this value. so say i have the boost set to 15 psi and i don't want the wastgate to start opening until like 13.5 psi. i just input 13.5 and the controller will not start regulating until it reaches 13.5 psi. OH this unit measures in Kpa Bar Atm kg/cm2 and PSI
and all these can be absolute or normal. i'd say for the price of the 2 units the benefits severly outweigh the cost if you are serious about having a bad ass car. Oh i am using 440cc/min injectors. I have the unit set up to correct the 235 to 310, so it will run a little rich and i can tune down with the fuel maps.
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

I think you still want a missing link for 95-99 just to keep the stock map sensor from breaking at 18+psi. Don't they have a diaphragm that can rupture if pushed out of spec?

So, how does your MSD DIS2 work with all this? You said the emanage monitors ignition +/-, is that just monitoring the actions of the MSD or is it doing it all by itself? If so could you use it without an MSD at all?

Also, what old equipment got replaced with the emanage and profec-e01? Just SAFC and Avcr/profecB/MBC?

Ok, My last burning question: The feature list says you can control "up to 2 additional injectors" but there's 6 standard and 2 sub-injector connections. Can't we hijack 2 standard and 2 sub-injector outputs to get a full 8-injector setup? Or are the subs controlled differently?

>Ok, My last burning question: The feature list says you can
>control "up to 2 additional injectors" but there's 6 standard
>and 2 sub-injector connections. Can't we hijack 2 standard
>and 2 sub-injector outputs to get a full 8-injector setup? Or
>are the subs controlled differently?

Great question! I'm wondering the same. Would running four injectors on two drivers cause an overheating issue with unit?

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Jason ESi-T

04' BMW 325Ci
91' Nissan 240SX
98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)

Dan, there are 6 main injector hookups and 2 auxiliary hookups. the thing is that the emanage controls the 6 main injectors with one fuel map and the auxiliary injectors with another map so they cannot be controlled together, 2 will be controlled by one map and the other will follow the standard injector map. so i don't think you can do the 8 injector thing with the emanage, you could possibly hook up 2 low impedence injectors to each channel and run those, but then 2 will fire simultaneously, and i don't think that would be good.
Currently i am still using the msd for timing retard, i think i am going to leave it that way. The MSD has a little more powerful program so i think it is good. you can just use the E-manage without the MSD for ignition timing. from talking with armond, he has been running mad boost on the stock ignition system, so i believe it is adequate. The Emanage/e-01 combo can potentially replace the MSD, any boost controller, and the AFC. i can also possibly replace an a/f guage a boost guage, a knock monitor and more
i like it hehee
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Hi James
I was waiting the new Apexi SAFC limited edition to come, but just called the dealer to cancel it and get a E-manage . I also have the E-01 boost controller, so I am thinking could you sent me your custom map after ur done(everything you setup by the support tool) as my temperary base map while I install it, then I gonna drive down to South Florida Performance to tune my car. After that, I can send what they tune to you as your referance.I am thinking to tune like around 18 to 20 psi. I guess we have almost the same mods (except the MSD). I got HRC S16G turbo kit, Howell bottom end, 440cc injectors, Vortech SFMU idle at 30psi( which size of ring and disk u use?), VC2, Walbro 225 Hp pump..... so please give bro a help here

Eric
loeric18_2000@yahoo.com

>So, how does your MSD DIS2 work with all this? You said the
>emanage monitors ignition +/-, is that just monitoring the
>actions of the MSD or is it doing it all by itself? If so
>could you use it without an MSD at all?

same question here, the e-manage can retard +/- 20 degree timing from the stock, so does that mean we dont need MSD Dis2 even when we try to boost up to 18-20 psi? If so,e-manage = S-AFC + MSD dis2, then
it is really worth to get one !

Eric

james, you got some websites for me to read and learn about this unit your using?.. it sounds so good. i might buy one later on if its not to hard to use, install and all...
thanks
Michael 99gs
HRC Stage 2
Stage 3 process begins gathering parts for rebuild

http://www.dreamwater.net/purplebeast

Whats the Support Tool do?
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vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

http://www.mkiv.com/tmp/emanage/

http://home.earthlink.net/~twilson1726/greddy.doc

http://www.trust-power.com/e-man/

http://www.wraithmr2.com/einstall.htm

http://www.turbotuners.com/images/profece/index.html

http://www.diamondstarmotorsport.com/elecparts.shtml

Kiku- The support tool is the software you HAVE to use to interface a PC with the emanage in order to program it and enable the advanced features. Not sure if the following is true, but from a website:

"GReddy doesn’t want you to tune the eManage yourself. They want their dealers to make money off you in order to have it tuned, and maybe to reduce the number of warranty claims by idiots who are trying to install it and blow it up, and they tried to insure this by two methods:

o They limited the software distribution to dealers only. The advanced features of the unit can only be activated by downloading the software into the eManage unit. This requires the software and a data-link cable. Setting-up and tuning the advanced features requires continued use of the software and cable.

o They limited distribution of the special communication cable to dealers only.

http://www.mkiv.com/tmp/emanage/cable/

James, I'm also interested in what rate you're using on your fuel riser. I can't tell for sure, but it sounds like you could get away with running a 1:1 riser with this system. The 034 Supplimentary Injector ECU(in Corbin's 8-injector writeup) works the same way - fuel based on Boost@RPM. It sounds to me like, at the very least, it should be possible to lower the rising rate to keep the fuel pressure at a sane level.


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

I want to be making 350 HP, according to RC engineerings formulas i need ~85 psi of fuel pressure at 80% duty cycle with my 440cc/min injectors. therefore that equates to 100 psi of fuel pressure at 15 or so psi of boost to give me a differential of 85 psi. my static is set up to approximately 35 psi, and idle falls down accordingly to about 27. I use the 4:1 disk to achieve my 100 psi fuel pressure. I am not worried about running the 100 psi because all my fuel lines are -6AN steel braided. Now if i was running additional injectors then i could lower the fuel pressure, but i am not. so i think my setup is optimal for my application at this time.

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James

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Hey Jamesman....

Need to talk to you. I just bought the e-manage and its addons. Need to talk to you on any tips you have on wiring/configuration/etc. Do you have aim?
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Vinnie Lima
vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

looking through all of that stuff that's posted, it shows a section where the e-manage can clamp voltages for our boost cut. Does that mean it can monitor our boost and clamp the voltage to the ECU?


Jon

1997 Eclipse RS

14.21@101mph 10/4/02

yes it can clamp it,
yes i do have aim
SN luvymonstr

set the 3 internal pots to 3 8 A
thats about it,
solder all connections to the ecu
wire it up like the map sensor diagram in the manual.
the grey wire goes to the TPS signal.
what year is your car? mines a 95, so i'm not sure the wire colors are the same.
for the injector harness hook up the signal wires to the injector signal at the ecu and ground the injector ground wire to the ECU main ground. it was pin 12 on my ecu.

if you need any more info let me know.
I haven't hooked up the ignition harness yet, i am still debating because I have the MSD in the car.

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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

If the dealer is the only place that can get the advanced options stuff and DL it onto the e-manage. how did you get it Jamesman? the place you bought it from just say f-it and let you buy it or something? im VERY interested in this setup, keep us updated.

www.TeamKLR.com
1997 Silver RS
12.3@118mph,20psi, race gas(drag radials)
Wiseco 10.5 Pistons
Eagle Rods
T3/T4 Turbo
Custom FMIC
Greddy Exhaust
440's

If you buy the e-01 and e-manage combo, the options are all availiable to you when you plug these 2 units together. you don't have to download anything to the e-manage, the options are all within the e-manage already. you juet need the support tool or the e-01 boost controller to access them.
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Hi Jamesman,

I'll have my unit here monday. I'll probably have tons of questions for you. I have a 1997 chrysler sebring I4 so I am not sure the year differences between the 95/97 but i have the full manuals (mechanic and electrical) so i should be ok.

Have you instrumented anything to do with knock monitoring in the emanage? I have read some of the message boards of some folks using some of the extra inputs into the emanage to monitor it...

What fuel setup do you have? I have hrc stage 2 with 440cc injectors and 1:1 regulator (may be switching to higher rate) and rebuilt engine to the kazoo.
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vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

well, i think you can use the e-01 unit's signal input to monitor knock. you could probably do it directly with an auxiliary knock sensor.
My fuel setup is
walbro intank, accel inline, -6 steel braided fuel line, sfmu, rc 440cc/min injectors, and the emanage.

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James

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Woohoo got my emanage today
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vinnie.lima@jvllogistics.com
AIM: Kiku888
1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC"
I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC
14.7@97 mph@6psi
Proud member of the
ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew

;( mine is still on the way...


Eric

"">So, how does your MSD DIS2 work with all this? You said the
>emanage monitors ignition +/-, is that just monitoring the
>actions of the MSD or is it doing it all by itself? If so
>could you use it without an MSD at all?

same question here, the e-manage can retard +/- 20 degree timing from the stock, so does that mean we dont need MSD Dis2 even when we try to boost up to 18-20 psi? If so,e-manage = S-AFC + MSD dis2, then
it is really worth to get one !

Eric """

this questiono was never answered..... sorry to bring up old topics but its almost time for some serioous tuing...

DWAYNE H
2001 SUZUKI GSX-R>>BLACK/RED
Gsr POWERED 94 COUPE. (BEATER) AND SLEEPER
96 2GNT, HRC STAGE 4 S20G, 2.4 SWAP< IN PROGRESS( PROFESSIONALLY BUILT BUY BOB STOCKUM), KAMINIARI WIDEBODY. 19" ROLLERS. AIR RIDE SUS, 8 POINT CAGE, APEXI EVERYTHING

Well theoretically you can replace the msd for timing retard, but Vinnie(kiku) and I have been trying to get the ignition part of of the emanage to work on our car with no luck so far. I think it may be the same issue that a msd unit has that makes the tach adapter a necessity. vinnie said when he installed his ignition harness that the car did not start at all. when i installed mine (after the msd tach adapter) my car started and then idled rough then smoothed out and then completely shut down. soooo, we probably can use this unit to retard, but currently we have not found a work around for this. Vinnie was talking to some people about this issue and they were saying that we probably needed some kind of adapter for our cars but he and I have been busy and have not had too much time to look into it. you also have to remember that the MSD unit is not just a retard unit it is also an ignition amplifier so you will probably not get as much benefit with just the emanage alone.
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

Sooo, theoretically you could use the emanage for timing control and an MSD for amplification - right?


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html

where the pics!!!!

2006 WW IX MR
2003 BBY EVO VIII (sold)
256.9WHP & 277.9torque
http://s90395832.onlinehome.us/forum//index.php?sid=a70942a7f65043e6c873e12dcd300692

1998 Eclipse RS --show car--

oh shi* wheres the e-manage?
hehe james is the man



Michael 99gs
HRC Stage 2 @12psi
Stage 3 process begins gathering parts for rebuild

http://www.dreamwater.net/purplebeast

wow..whos care is that above??thats some really nice custom work there...

400whp or bust.

OMG look at the fukin head liner! is that fiberglass?? thats incredible

Boca Raton, Florida
95 Eclipse GS- sold
99 Eclipse GSX- 386awhp
98 Eclipse GS- sold
92 Prelude

That's my headliner, it is the stock one that i cut to place componenets in. i mounted alot of stuff up there because of a lack of space anywhere else. hehe
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james

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

any updates james? I'll be going piggy back. Just wandering if you were able to control timing with that yet or got it to work with your ignition.

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"Tell them of us and say,
For their tomorrow,
We gave our today."
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nope not yet,
I have a schematic that a couple electrical engineers here helped me make.
From what I can gather regarding our ignitions, being that the coil is directly driven by our ecu, the e-manage cannot drive the coil directly. From examining the FSM it appears that there are main power transistors inside the ecu that switch to ground to fire the coil. The e-manage is hooked up inbetween the ecu and the coil pack and the e-manage transistors are not robust enough to drive the coil. I think their original intention was to drive an ignitor like in the 4g63 which then drives the coil. Theoretically, the circuit I have uses two large power transistors that would drive the coil, these transistors would be switched by the e-manage and these transistors will be able to handle the current that the coil requires. When I hooked up the emanage after the tach adapter of the msd, the car ran, but it ran rough, this is why i think it is a transistor issue. I really have not had much time to make and test this circuit, but eventually i will try and see what happens.

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James

Rest In Peace Heidi Doggy

We ripped out my tach adapter for the same reason. It runs much better with it out. Try taking out the tach adapter and see what happens.

05 Mazda RX-8
06 Lotus Elise

This may sound crazy, but why couldnt we tap inline with the crank trigger sensor? or will that just mess everything up? I suppose if that's used to fire the injectors also, then that could be an issue...Oh yeah, I am going to go with the E-manage setup too! This thing sounds awsome! I was actually just checkin out this thread yesterday :o

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
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-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
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