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roberto ibizaOct-27-10 01:53 PM
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#108284, "Problem with my fuel setup"




          

Hello family, I am in process of assembling Treadstone turbo my car, a 420th.
I have a problem with gasoline.
In Spain not find anyone who knows how to solve the problem and I'm very lost.
I have to install.
RC 440cc injectors.
12:1 FMU
1:1 AFPR
Apexi Neo.
This is correct?
What would be perfect for my car?
Sorry, but I'm really lost, because in Ibiza where I live there is nobody to operate the motor 420A. in fact, mine is the only engine that exist on the island.
So I need your help.
Thanks.

  

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RE: Problem with my fuel setup, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Oct-27-10 02:00 PM, #1
RE: Problem with my fuel setup, roberto ibiza, Oct-27-10 02:25 PM, #2
      RE: Problem with my fuel setup, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Oct-28-10 05:46 AM, #3
           RE: Problem with my fuel setup, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Oct-28-10 07:02 AM, #4
                RE: Problem with my fuel setup, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Oct-28-10 07:09 AM, #5
                     RE: Problem with my fuel setup, roberto ibiza, Oct-28-10 09:02 AM, #6
                          RE: Problem with my fuel setup, roberto ibiza, Oct-28-10 09:09 AM, #7
                               RE: Problem with my fuel setup, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Oct-28-10 09:41 AM, #8
                                    RE: Problem with my fuel setup, roberto ibiza, Nov-14-10 06:46 AM, #9
                                         RE: Problem with my fuel setup, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Nov-14-10 02:29 PM, #10

Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneOct-27-10 02:00 PM
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#108285, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Originally posted by roberto ibiza
RC 440cc injectors.


These are fine, but without an SAFC or adjustable rising-rate regulator, you won't be able to idle them on the stock ECU.

Originally posted by roberto ibiza
12:1 FMU


If you're going to run 440's, a 12:1 FMU is way too high a rate of gain. I'd step it down to a 3:1 or a 4:1 instead. Alternately, for low boost you can skip the 440's and run the stock injectors with the 12:1. With a high pressure fuel pump, you'd be good for 5-6psi.

Originally posted by roberto ibiza
1:1 AFPR


if you're running the 12:1 FMU (or 4:1, or 3:1) you can skip this and use the stock fuel pressure regulator, as long as you also get...

Originally posted by roberto ibiza
Apexi Neo.


This was a common configuration back in the day: SAFC (now called AFC-NEO, apparently), 440cc/min injectors, and a 3:1 or 4:1 FMU running with the stock fuel pressure regulator.

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roberto ibizaOct-27-10 02:25 PM
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#108286, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Sorry, also I have a walbro 255 lhp.
Ok, then I suggest you install the injectors of origin?
with the injectors of origin will have little power?
would need to work with 440cc injectors?
thanks.

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonOct-28-10 05:46 AM
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#108287, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Be careful with this setup. The fuels in Europe are more "detonation" prone than our US fuels. Event he same Octane is not equivenant.

Start with your stock injectors and 12:1 or upgrade to an SAFC, 4:1 Super FMU and the 440 injectors.

Terry

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneOct-28-10 07:02 AM
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#108288, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Ah, i forgot about that. Ours is RON+MON/2, they rate in Mon by itself...

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonOct-28-10 07:09 AM
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#108289, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Yeah the Mopar guys have a hell of a time with the old V8's.

  

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roberto ibizaOct-28-10 09:02 AM
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#108290, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Ok, then the configuration would be: FMU 12:1, walbro 255lhp, AFPR and original injectors.
Another configuration would be.: FMU 4:1, Walbro 255LHP, AFPR and 440cc injectors.
think is best in the AFC NEO or attempt to sell it and buy a SFMU?
The fuel here is 98 Octanos.
Thanks for everything

  

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roberto ibizaOct-28-10 09:09 AM
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#108291, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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I forgot.
The changes I made in the car are:

JE Pistons 8:8.1
Eagle Beams.
ARP bolts.
Cometic Head gasket.
New oil pump and water pump.
aluminium crank pulley.
OBX. Cam Gears.
Turbo kit, Treadstone.
T3/T4 and compresor .60
Front mount intercooler.
Wastgate external.
Blow off Greedy type RS.
Wideband AEM.
Aem Tru-boost.
AFC Neo.
Walbro 255lhp
Injectors RC 440cc
OBX intake manifold.

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneOct-28-10 09:41 AM
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#108292, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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Given that its a built motor, I'd use the 440cc/min injectors, the SAFC Neo, and a 4:1 FMU. it's a solid (if not very tunable) setup that is good for ~15psi on the STAR/Treadstone turbo.

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roberto ibizaNov-14-10 06:46 AM
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#108299, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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I spoke with Jason of Treadstone and told me that I can mount
440cc injectors with AFPR do not need to mount the FMU, the settings
I can do with the Apexi Neo.

  

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#108300, "RE: Problem with my fuel setup"
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a 1:1 AFPR isn't going to get you the fuel pressure you need. You're going to be limited in the amount of boost you can run without some greater-than-1:1 rate of gain.

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'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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