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PsychODec-09-11 12:35 PM
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#33459, "Outlander brake swap"


          

Parts needed:
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX Dual piston calipers
2005 Mitsubishi Outlander brake caliper brackets MR307282
2005 Mitsubishi Outlander Slotted rotors (11.6" rotor vs GSX 10.9")





  

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RE: Outlander brake swap, Slo2g, Nov-24-11 04:59 PM, #1
RE: Outlander brake swap, AdministratorCODE4, Nov-24-11 10:41 PM, #2
      RE: Outlander brake swap, PsychO, Nov-25-11 06:36 PM, #3
           RE: Outlander brake swap, iamnotwhoiam, Dec-08-11 03:02 PM, #4
                RE: Outlander brake swap, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-08-11 03:04 PM, #5
                     RE: Outlander brake swap, iamnotwhoiam, Dec-08-11 03:33 PM, #6
                          RE: Outlander brake swap, PsychO, Dec-08-11 05:22 PM, #7
                               RE: Outlander brake swap, iamnotwhoiam, Dec-08-11 05:26 PM, #8
                                    RE: Outlander brake swap, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-08-11 05:27 PM, #9
                                         RE: Outlander brake swap, RoninEclipse2G, Dec-08-11 06:11 PM, #10
                                              RE: Outlander brake swap, electrohead, Dec-08-11 09:51 PM, #11
                                                   RE: Outlander brake swap, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-09-11 12:35 PM, #12
                                                        RE: Outlander brake swap, RoninEclipse2G, Dec-10-11 04:45 PM, #13
                                                             RE: Outlander brake swap, AdministratorCODE4, Dec-10-11 04:48 PM, #14
                                                                  RE: Outlander brake swap, PsychO, Dec-12-11 09:09 PM, #15

Slo2gNov-24-11 04:59 PM
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#33460, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Nice!

  

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AdministratorCODE4Nov-24-11 10:41 PM
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#33461, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Nice alternative.

The brackets currently list for $61.95 a piece however, so definitely only feasible if found in a junkyard. Pretty pricey for about 3/4" rotor diameter increase.

Also, what motor setup you running? I see you are using 36-1 trigger wheel there.

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PsychONov-25-11 06:36 PM
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#33462, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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That is another members avenger from the dark side. I forgot to add that those are his pictures.

I wanted to share the OEM upgrade option.

He is running a 3.8L from a Galant with MS.

  

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iamnotwhoiamDec-08-11 03:02 PM
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#33484, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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So with this setup do you have to use different pads to accompany the larger rotor or does it really matter?

-Jason

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AdministratorCODE4Dec-08-11 03:04 PM
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#33485, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Dec-08-11 03:05 PM by CODE4



          

The diameter of the rotor is larger, but that does not necessarily mean the friction surface is too. Since the caliper really matters for what pad you use, I imagine the pads are the standard GSX/3S style pads.

In either case, the diameter is not much larger that would warrant a different pad in my opinion.

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iamnotwhoiamDec-08-11 03:33 PM
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#33486, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Originally posted by CODE4
The diameter of the rotor is larger, but that does not necessarily mean the friction surface is too. Since the caliper really matters for what pad you use, I imagine the pads are the standard GSX/3S style pads. In either case, the diameter is not much larger that would warrant a different pad in my opinion.


yep that was exactly what I was thinking... now to just source a larger caliper and rotor

-Jason

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PsychODec-08-11 05:22 PM
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#33488, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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If you already have GSX brakes, you just need the bracket from the outlander and outlander rotors.

The caliper itself is the same from the GSX to that year outlander.

  

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iamnotwhoiamDec-08-11 05:26 PM
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#33489, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Originally posted by PsychO
If you already have GSX brakes, you just need the bracket from the outlander and outlander rotors. The caliper itself is the same from the GSX to that year outlander.


I was just thinking that to actually take full advantage of larger rotors a larger caliper/pad would be in order.

The larger rotor is indeed nice, but would it really benefit that much over the normal gsx rotor using the same pad/caliper?

-Jason

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AdministratorCODE4Dec-08-11 05:27 PM
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#33490, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Yes, because Torque = Force x distance. Same principle as using a longer breaker bar or cheater bar to loosen a stubborn bolt.

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RoninEclipse2GDec-08-11 06:11 PM
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#33491, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Originally posted by CODE4
Yes, because Torque = Force x distance. Same principle as using a longer breaker bar or cheater bar to loosen a stubborn bolt.

Exactly. Also with the slightly increased diamater of the rotor you are getting a bit more surface area to spread the force over.

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electroheadDec-08-11 09:51 PM
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#33492, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Dec-09-11 12:35 PM by CODE4

          

In theory, being that the Outlanders weigh in between 3540 and 3850 lbs. and our cars are between 2745 and 2899 lbs., those rotors seem less likely to warp as easily as the milk bottle caps our cars came with from the factory. The design looks better for dissipating heat efficiently. When I get my next 2GNT, I'm probably going to do this conversion. I seem to warp my brakes religiously, regardless what manufacturer I use.

Out of curiousity, would this upgrade fit 17 inch rims or would you have to run 18s?

  

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AdministratorCODE4Dec-09-11 12:35 PM
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#33494, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Just look at what size wheels Outlanders role on.

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RoninEclipse2GDec-10-11 04:45 PM
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#33495, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Originally posted by CODE4
Just look at what size wheels Outlanders role on.

Seriously?

Dave, I'm dissappointed in you.

Stock wheels on the outlander are a 16" IIRC.

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#33496, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Originally posted by RoninEclipse2G
Originally posted by CODE4 Just look at what size wheels Outlanders role on.
Seriously? Dave, I'm dissappointed in you. Stock wheels on the outlander are a 16" IIRC.


Fuck. My bad man. I will haze myself now for a half hour...

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PsychODec-12-11 09:09 PM
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#33501, "RE: Outlander brake swap"
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Evo 8 Brembos fit under a 16" FD wheel, so these would definitely fit.

  

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