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Mo_PowerApr-04-06 08:11 AM
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#97598, "Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"


          

How interested would people be in a supercharger kit for the 420A Eclipse/Talon? It would be under $3,000 and include everything needed (with instructions of course) for 300HP without going into the engine internals.

  

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RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, 97eclipse97, Apr-04-06 08:19 AM, #1
RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-04-06 08:44 AM, #2
      RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, clips3kid, Apr-04-06 08:46 AM, #3
           RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, jam013200, Apr-04-06 11:10 AM, #4
                RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, destruckeclipse, Apr-04-06 11:20 AM, #5
                     RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, Dirtbike59, Apr-04-06 01:46 PM, #6
                          RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, freddy_00_69, Apr-04-06 02:26 PM, #7
                               RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, Dirtbike59, Apr-04-06 03:08 PM, #8
                                    RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, thedawg, Apr-04-06 07:00 PM, #9
                                    RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, grain, Apr-05-06 04:00 AM, #10
                                         RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, 97eclipse97, Apr-05-06 04:49 AM, #11
                                         RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, Keith2172, Apr-05-06 05:11 AM, #12
                                         RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, BumpinTalon, Apr-05-06 08:28 AM, #16
                                    RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, TeamDR1665, Apr-05-06 05:20 AM, #13
                                         RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, unlucky, Apr-05-06 08:06 AM, #14
                                         RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, CustomGS, Apr-05-06 08:21 AM, #15
                                              RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, goalie40, Apr-05-06 09:26 AM, #17
                                              RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, TeamDR1665, Apr-06-06 11:27 AM, #18
                                                   RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, mcgyvr, Apr-07-06 03:59 AM, #19
                                                   RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, cc8balla, Apr-07-06 05:50 AM, #20
                                                        RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, HadesOmega, Apr-07-06 09:47 AM, #21
                                                             RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, tim97rs, Apr-08-06 06:02 PM, #22
                                                                  RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, kelvinb1, Apr-08-06 07:34 PM, #23
                                                                       RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, GSGoinFast, Apr-08-06 07:49 PM, #24
                                                                            RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, BumpinTalon, Apr-08-06 08:18 PM, #25
                                                                            RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, injendsm, Apr-09-06 10:18 AM, #26
                                                                            RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, kelvinb1, Apr-09-06 10:26 AM, #27
                                                                                 RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon, dsmmyth, Apr-09-06 01:24 PM, #28

97eclipse97Apr-04-06 08:19 AM
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#97599, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Here we go again...

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#97600, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Personally? Not one damn bit.

Show me 300wHP on a stock motor and i'll show you factory rod bolts about to let go.

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#97601, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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personally id still like to see the kit, all the pieces, and it installed. post pics... we'll check the validity, then perhaps someone might actually think about it... not me but im just saying someone might come across the post and be interested.



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#97609, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Send me one for free and I will "test" it here for everybody...no charge to you! PM me if you are interested.

  

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#97610, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Apr-04-06 11:20 AM by destruckeclipse

          

Originally posted by jam013200
Send me one for free and I will "test" it here for everybody...no charge to you! PM me if you are interested.


Haha. If the price wasn't the same or more then most turbo kits out there for the 420a, you might have people. But it being the same / more means no one will like to go that route when there are already proven methods on this car. Make one, see if any one buys it.


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#97612, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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i would go supercharged if i had the money. some features i like are no mods to the oil system, i can have boost just off idle, no turbo timer needed and it different. if you could just sell the supercharger and the adapter plate needed along with a how to guide i would try it. yea turbos are great, but to me there is more than one way to gain power and i think some people shouldnt be so quick to jump at the guy for seeing if there are people wanting a different route.

  

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#97613, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by Dirtbike59
i would go supercharged if i had the money. some features i like are no mods to the oil system, i can have boost just off idle, no turbo timer needed and it different. if you could just sell the supercharger and the adapter plate needed along with a how to guide i would try it. yea turbos are great, but to me there is more than one way to gain power and i think some people shouldnt be so quick to jump at the guy for seeing if there are people wanting a different route.


Well, we have seen plenty of people talk about supercharging our cars, but there isnt one proved. That is why everyone jumps on him, just do it and prove it then we will consider it and talk more about it. Until then, we dont need to see any more "supercharged 420A" threads that are worthless. I encourage him to do it, then let us know how it is.


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#97616, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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there is the guy on team-2g.com that most everyone seems to believe. after talking with him i think he is for real and knows what he is doing.

  

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#97623, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Superchargers are for RWD/AWD cars.

It's hard enough just to keep a laggy turbo FWD car on the ground.

  

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#97626, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by thedawg
Superchargers are for RWD/AWD cars. It's hard enough just to keep a laggy turbo FWD car on the ground.


ding ding ding

  

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#97631, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Right, having 'boost off idle' in a FWD car is not a good thing! There's no point in having 300whp if you ca't put any of it to the ground! For me, turbo is the only way to go

That being said, I would still like to see this setup and how well it really runs.

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#97632, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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do it and take pics, if it's got a CARB sticker on it then $3k aint bad at all. I'd like to see it done too, but I don't think I'd rock it, something about parasitic lose that bothers me. BTW tone down your horsepower goals till you've got it put together and on a dyno, otherwise you may be sorely disappointed, I'm thinkin 200whp is a good place to start, and wouldn't be too shabby in our cars either.

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#97652, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Apr-05-06 08:28 AM by BumpinTalon



          

Originally posted by grain
Originally posted by thedawg Superchargers are for RWD/AWD cars. It's hard enough just to keep a laggy turbo FWD car on the ground.
ding ding ding


personally I would rather have a supercharger because throttle reponse is king with what I do .. a-x season is starting again!


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#97633, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by Dirtbike59
there is the guy on team-2g.com that most everyone seems to believe. after talking with him i think he is for real and knows what he is doing.


Pretty sure he pieced his kit together for less than $1500 at that. For some reason, I tend to believe that guy on T2G. Whether it's any good for this application or not is beside the point. It's something different.

  

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#97650, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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i have heard of one on cardomain but i also hear it runs like shit but Supercharges are not just for AWD or RWD the Cobalt is an example of a FWD car and also i know someone with a Superchared RSX it runs good but its not that fast i dont know i would try it but not for dayly driving i think Supercharges belong on Amarican cars realy

  

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#97651, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Apr-05-06 08:22 AM by CustomGS

          

Originally posted by DR1665
Pretty sure he pieced his kit together for less than $1500 at that. For some reason, I tend to believe that guy on T2G. Whether it's any good for this application or not is beside the point. It's something different.


Yeah, i remember that, wasnt he from florida. Last i heard a member of t2G was supposed to make the drive to check it out.... Whatever happened with that brian?

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#97655, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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what i remember is i saw a supercharger on ebay for the 420a it was a prototype only like 45 made i think it was a eaton or a eaton type (it was a few months ago)just as much as a turbo but maxed out at i think 9psi of boost so yes cool but alot of money to be diffrent

for autoxing go with a smaller turbo and some head work will get rid of alot of that lagg or so im told

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#97683, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by CustomGS
Yeah, i remember that, wasnt he from florida. Last i heard a member of t2G was supposed to make the drive to check it out.... Whatever happened with that brian?

Someone was supposed to head down there and meet him, but he owns a business, got busy, and they never met up. Then the morons and sell outs jumped on a flaming bandwagon and the guy decided to walk away from the site. I don't blame him.

I talked to him a couple times through PMs and he seemed to have his shit together. It's not that he just placed parts in his engine bay for some grainy pictures. He really installed this thing. Of all the times I've seen pictures of superchargers sitting on 420As, this was the most believeable, but the guy hasn't been around much that I know of. I don't get over to that site too often these days.

  

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#97700, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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I just like to post this picture

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#97706, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by DR1665
Originally posted by CustomGS Yeah, i remember that, wasnt he from florida. Last i heard a member of t2G was supposed to make the drive to check it out.... Whatever happened with that brian?
Someone was supposed to head down there and meet him, but he owns a business, got busy, and they never met up. Then the morons and sell outs jumped on a flaming bandwagon and the guy decided to walk away from the site. I don't blame him. I talked to him a couple times through PMs and he seemed to have his shit together. It's not that he just placed parts in his engine bay for some grainy pictures. He really installed this thing. Of all the times I've seen pictures of superchargers sitting on 420As, this was the most believeable, but the guy hasn't been around much that I know of. I don't get over to that site too often these days.


He returns every now and then. I have talked to him on AIM, haven't in a while, but I agree when Driggs says he's got his shit together. He always insists that we talk on the phone, so he can explain things better, and is not one of those people that claim they have a s/c, post some shitty pics, then leave and are never heard from again. I think he says he has 2 2gnt's s/c'd. but don't quote me on that.

  

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#97716, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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well superchargers are good for windy circuit tracks. That's one advantage over the turbo since you don't have lag you can just pull out of corners if your revs go too low. But with a turbo just keep the revs up.

My dad has a supercharged MR2 and its not all that compared to a turbo car, its got torque but that's about all its got. Then increasing the boost is another problem you have to over drive the belt to get more boost. When for a turbocharger all you need is a boost controller. Not a lotta room to work with the intake manifold on our cars also maybe a neon would be better for that.

well in the end whatever floats your boat, but 300 HP is a lot of power I don't think the internals would handle that.


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#97732, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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whats a supercharger do...?

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#97733, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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i posted this awhile ago when i tripped to kc for the awd dyno and some track times. people laughed


  

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#97734, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Originally posted by kelvinb1
i posted this awhile ago when i tripped to kc for the awd dyno and some track times. people laughed


is it just me or does that belt not look like its gonna stay on, especially at high rpms

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#97735, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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ahahaha whooooa that one does not look like it would hold together for any amount of time


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#97736, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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ill sell the m90 off my gtp when i upgrade to anyone that's interested.


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#97737, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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lmao it only ran at high rpm, he had to basically keep it floored to run. he was working on it.

  

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#97738, "RE: Supercharged 420A Eclipse/Talon"
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Yea, I doubt anyone is going to pay 3000 for a S/C kit when some guy at team-2g explained how to create one for less than half that.



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