Welcome to the 2GNT Forum! Interested In Advertising with 2GNT?
Home | Site Background| Info&Specs| Mods & Tech Info | CAPS | Part Reviews | Donate | 2GNT Stickers |
Search Printer-friendly copy 0 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #138095
View in linear mode

Subject: "Wrong Cam Selection?" Previous topic | Next topic
Rude55Aug-21-13 09:41 PM
Member since Aug 16th 2011
37 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138095, "Wrong Cam Selection?"




          

Hey guys, hope all is well.
I think I may have made a huge mistake in purchasing cams. My goal is to eventually go turbo and after talking to a few people on the forum ( and should have done more research) I jumped at an opportunity to purchase some Crower Stage 2 3/4 Race cams (64462)-not the turbo grind.

Will this cause me to lose power ( or even not gain any)? They have not been installed yet so i can possibly pay a re-stocking fee or whatever to get the right ones after returning these. Thanks in advance.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, AdministratorCODE4, Aug-22-13 02:09 AM, #1
RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-22-13 08:54 AM, #2
      RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Rude55, Aug-22-13 09:03 AM, #3
           RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Moderatorbullettdsm, Aug-24-13 05:19 PM, #4
                RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Rude55, Aug-25-13 11:10 AM, #5
                     RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Aug-25-13 01:00 PM, #6
                          RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Moderatorbullettdsm, Aug-25-13 05:05 PM, #7
                               RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Aug-27-13 07:39 AM, #8
                                    RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Moderatorxcasbonx, Aug-27-13 08:48 AM, #9
                                         RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Aug-28-13 07:12 AM, #10
                                              RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Moderatorxcasbonx, Aug-28-13 08:32 AM, #11
                                                   RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Aug-28-13 11:06 AM, #12
                                                        RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, AdministratorCODE4, Aug-28-13 11:24 AM, #13
                                                             RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Aug-29-13 10:13 PM, #14
                                                                  RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Moderatorxcasbonx, Aug-30-13 06:24 AM, #15
                                                                       RE: Wrong Cam Selection?, Gruff511, Sep-01-13 12:58 PM, #16

AdministratorCODE4Aug-22-13 02:09 AM
Member since Nov 23rd 2003
2552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138096, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 0




          

Those cams are just fine.

---

2012 2500HD LML


  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneAug-22-13 08:54 AM
Donating 2GNT member
14938 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138097, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 1




          

Yeap, they'll work as expected.

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
Rude55Aug-22-13 09:03 AM
Member since Aug 16th 2011
37 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138098, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 2




          

Ok thanks! Will compression change anything? I am going low compression .

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
ModeratorbullettdsmAug-24-13 05:19 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2676 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138103, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 3


          

No problem

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
Rude55Aug-25-13 11:10 AM
Member since Aug 16th 2011
37 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138104, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 4




          

Thanks Bullet. I was hoping you would chime in as i saw some threads on a different site talking about how you preferred these over the turbo grind. Thanks again.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Gruff511Aug-25-13 01:00 PM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138105, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 5


          

Anybody know what the max you could probably make on stock cams?

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
ModeratorbullettdsmAug-25-13 05:05 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2676 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138107, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 6


          

Originally posted by Gruff511
Anybody know what the max you could probably make on stock cams?

Used? Usually about $250. But the most? I would guess you could find somebody that would pay $350

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                            
Gruff511Aug-27-13 07:39 AM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138109, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 7


          

I ment HP wise. What's the most whp anyone made using stock cams

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                
ModeratorxcasbonxAug-27-13 08:48 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2874 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138110, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 8




          

Originally posted by Gruff511
I ment HP wise. What's the most whp anyone made using stock cams


Over 500. Over 500 on a stock valve train at that.


I contributed to the Wiki.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                    
Gruff511Aug-28-13 07:12 AM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138113, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 9


          

So the stock head flows enough air up top as well? If I recal wasn't there a thread on here or neons forums of our head being flow tested with different cams valves then with port job. I can't find it now.
I'm bout to build a head with ss valves, springs and titanium retainers. With that do you NEED to run an after market cam? I seen some sites post uyou need cams with the valves and valve springs and all that

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                        
ModeratorxcasbonxAug-28-13 08:32 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2874 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138114, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 10




          

You do not NEED to run an aftermarket cam with all that headwork. Contrary to popular belief the stock head flows extremely well.


I contributed to the Wiki.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                            
Gruff511Aug-28-13 11:06 AM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138115, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 11


          

Yeah I always heard with the 420a you need to upgrade the cams if you upgrade the valvetrain I didnt think so but good to know for sure.
So what allows you to rev above 7k like to 8k or 9k? I know lighter valves and springs help but can stock cams support high rpms as well? I currently have a big portnpolish with stock cams and stock valves with 4g63t valve springs and pt cruiser lifters and rockers. Is there a way to figure out whats the highest rpm they can support.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                
AdministratorCODE4Aug-28-13 11:24 AM
Member since Nov 23rd 2003
2552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138116, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 12




          

There is no quantifying what exact rpm you can hit with said parts.

If you want to rev higher, upgrade your parts. Unless you have a big turbo and you have done the math for supplying the air volume (not PSI) needed to support the engine at that speed, revving that high is only beating your valve train up.

---

2012 2500HD LML


  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                    
Gruff511Aug-29-13 10:13 PM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138120, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 13


          

yeah I figured lol. Turbo going to flow about 65lbs/min guess ill just see how much these stock cams can take.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                        
ModeratorxcasbonxAug-30-13 06:24 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2874 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138121, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 14




          

65lb/min is going to be more like what the bottom end can take! The cams will be fine. Good luck.


I contributed to the Wiki.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                                                            
Gruff511Sep-01-13 12:58 PM
Member since Aug 06th 2011
203 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#138123, "RE: Wrong Cam Selection?"
In response to Reply # 15


          

Yeah 65lbs is max the motor will see. Mechanic built the block for around 700hp so ill be seeing just how much this 420a will take.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #138095 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.2
Copyright 1997-2003 DCScripts.com

I generated this page in 0.10240316390991 seconds, executing 12 queries.