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MalenkoJun-15-04 06:02 PM
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#3055, "Wheres the new autostick write up?"


          

I got the momentary buttons, the wires and my soldering iron just antsy in the pantsy to get put to use.

now Ive heard its the ECU we're wiring and the TCU, can someone post definitive instructions, I got no beef wiring it up and taking snazzy pictures.

  

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RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, InFiNiT3, Jun-15-04 07:48 PM, #1
RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-15-04 07:53 PM, #2
      RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, InFiNiT3, Jun-15-04 07:54 PM, #3
           RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, mcgyvr, Jun-16-04 03:48 AM, #4
                RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Brent Pottle, Jun-16-04 05:15 AM, #5
                     RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-16-04 06:47 AM, #6
                          RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Keith2172, Jun-16-04 04:42 PM, #7
                               RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-17-04 08:42 PM, #8
                                    RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-18-04 12:57 PM, #9
                                         RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, thedawg, Jun-21-04 08:03 AM, #10
                                              RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Brent Pottle, Jun-22-04 01:52 AM, #11
                                                   RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, mcgyvr, Jun-22-04 03:17 AM, #12
                                                   RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Brent Pottle, Jun-22-04 03:51 AM, #13
                                                        RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, alain95i4, Jun-22-04 01:07 PM, #14
                                                             RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, mcgyvr, Jun-23-04 02:42 AM, #15
                                                                  RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-23-04 09:29 AM, #16
                                                                       RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Keith2172, Jun-27-04 07:44 PM, #17
                                                                            RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jun-28-04 07:53 PM, #18
                                                                                 RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, mcgyvr, Jun-29-04 02:20 AM, #19
                                                                                      RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, thedawg, Jun-29-04 01:13 PM, #20
                                                                                           RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Malenko, Jul-01-04 07:19 AM, #21
                                                                                           RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, mcgyvr, Jul-02-04 06:21 AM, #22
                                                                                                RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Vigo, Jul-02-04 06:07 PM, #23
                                                                                                RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, thedawg, Jul-02-04 06:13 PM, #24
RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, castilge, Aug-06-04 08:37 AM, #25
RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?, Keith2172, Aug-16-04 05:08 AM, #26

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#3056, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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im workin on it im workin on it..... hit me up on aim.. or msn.. ill send u the diagrams i have drawn so far

jake

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MalenkoJun-15-04 07:53 PM
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#3057, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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j00 are never on

  

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#3059, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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im on rite now foo!!!!!!

AEM cam Gears,MSD ignition,Chikira 4-2-1 header,Custom 2.5" exhast,Pacsetter hiflo cat ,head p/p , intake p/p 2mm oversize tit valves , t/b p/p , shiftkit , TQ lockup mod , and much mor

  

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mcgyvrJun-16-04 03:48 AM
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#3060, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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its the TCU under the dash, pins 5 and 44 thats the write up, the info is ALL OVER the place, just do it..

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
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Not enough

  

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Brent PottleJun-16-04 05:15 AM
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#3061, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Jun-16-04 05:22 AM by Brent Pottle

          

not to mention pics (figured I'd pat my own back) in the autostick thread just down from here in the same forum

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=33&topic_id=2215&mesg_id=2215&page=&topic_page=10

here is your write up to accompany my pics

1. Unplug Battery Terminal
2. take off plastic along sides of center console (as shown in pics)
3. un mount TCU from bracket (4 bolts in a steel cradle)
4. pull TCU out onto the floor (as seen in pictures)
5. undue harness screw (screw keeps the harness on the TCU)
6. pull off harness
7. drill plastic for pins 44 and 5 to expose orange/red rubber insulator inside the harness. every 10th pin is labeled (or 5th i dont remember) so use your common sense and count the number they are offset (ex if 40 is marked count 4 pins towards pin 45)
8. insert new pins (Part#101028 Thanks Keith) into holes and run 2 momentary switches to a common ground switch, and ground that to the chassis.
10. put it all back together and reconnect the battery


Usage: engage the common ground switch to enable autostick, push the button grounded on pin 5 to gear up and push the button on pin 44 to gear down...

Note: the car may have to be in a autostick ready gear such as '2' or 'L' for this to work, if it will at all... if these instructions dont work tehn it may require a TCU reflash as alain95 said...

??Anything im forgetting guys??



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MalenkoJun-16-04 06:47 AM
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#3062, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Jun-16-04 07:04 AM by Malenko

          

well infint3 said he spliced into the ECU not the TCU. I also read that one of other members here that tried it hooked it up to the TCU and it didnt work, which makes me think it IS the ECU we are supposed to hook into.

I read all the threads with their eleventy billion posts and I thought it was time to start fresh.

Infinite and I talked about it for a while last night, so Im gonna try to get it done his way and take pix to add to his walkthrough.

I didnt ask this because Im a lazy n00b, but because I want a solid walkthrough up for EVERYBODY that is conmplete, easy to understand, and full of pictures

EDIT: are you saying you did the mod and it works your way? Or are you saying you gathered up all the info and thats how it should work? Ive also read that we might need to do it at the ECU because on avengers they have the #5 wire going from the ECU to the TCU since some of their cars have autosticks?


Either way I want someone who HAS DONE IT to get some pix of it done, which is what I was trying to do.

  

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Keith2172Jun-16-04 04:42 PM
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#3063, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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I did it EXACTLY like Brent said, to the TCU. Didn't work, FOR ME. Now thats not to say it doesn't work but it is possible that some TCU's may need to be reflashed. I personally cant contemplate why this would have to be wired to the ECU, it just wouldn't make sense to store shift data in the engine computer, but then again Mitsu. has done weirder things.

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MalenkoJun-17-04 08:42 PM
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#3065, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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brent are you saying that worked on your car?

Im lookin for someone who has it done to tell me, infinti3s way doent work at all so tomorrow I start workin with the TCU instead of the ECU

  

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MalenkoJun-18-04 12:57 PM
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#3070, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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update:

Ive now tried this mod both ways and neither works. Is this like the biggest 2gnt hoax in a long time or is some one who got it to work gonna give a working tutorial?


And yes, I read the other 2 threads concerning this mod thats how I know of the 2 ways to do it.

  

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#3081, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Originally posted by Malenko Is this like the biggest 2gnt hoax in a long time



  

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Brent PottleJun-22-04 01:52 AM
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#3084, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Nah, i didnt get it working....

I beleive someone mentioned that someone on ASOG did it on an I4? i'd have to say i doubt it.?.



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mcgyvrJun-22-04 03:17 AM
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#3085, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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works on my car.
its an avenger, maybe there is a different TCU program for you guys.???

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
Mods are:
Not enough

  

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#3086, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Originally posted by Brent Pottle
I beleive someone mentioned that someone on ASOG did it on an I4? i'd have to say i doubt it.?.


I stand corrected



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alain95i4Jun-22-04 01:07 PM
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#3087, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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I would be curious to know which model years worked so far

like I stated once it could be possible that earlier model , say a 96-97 could have a non autostick software running inside an autostick ready TCM

flashing a TCM is 30 minutes deal at the dealer
they connect on the odb-II plug and dump a newer version of the software

Alain

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mcgyvrJun-23-04 02:42 AM
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#3091, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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yeah alain, but I was just emailed a 98 eclipse who it wont work for, so I actually think its different between mitsu and chrysler and probably model years too..

1998 dodge avenger 4 cyl AT
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Not enough

  

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MalenkoJun-23-04 09:29 AM
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#3092, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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I have a 98 eclipse RS and it doesnt work. I dont have the time or money to flash my TCU but if you wanna send me one to try I will then I can either send it back if it doesnt work, or send you mine to get reflashed.

  

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Keith2172Jun-27-04 07:44 PM
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#3099, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Where is Infinit3? I think he got it working
.

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MalenkoJun-28-04 07:53 PM
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#3105, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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he gave me an ECU diasgram that killed the engine at the flip oif a switch

  

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mcgyvrJun-29-04 02:20 AM
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#3106, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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yeah the way he says to do it disconnects the ground for the crank/cam shaft sensor

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Not enough

  

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#3109, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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That, and he grenaded his transmission.

  

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MalenkoJul-01-04 07:19 AM
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#3120, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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yeah, that boosts my confidence

  

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#3121, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Originally posted by thedawg
That, and he grenaded his transmission.


totally unrelated to the autostick mod

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Not enough

  

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#3123, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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what does the 2ngt community need to know the most:

what years/models does autostick work on the stock tcu?

as long as you get that nailed down, you're golden.

anybody have a quote from satan on the cost of tcu reflash?


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#3124, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Originally posted by mcgyvr
Originally posted by thedawg That, and he grenaded his transmission.
totally unrelated to the autostick mod


Prove it. He doesn't even know himself if it was related... he's still rebuilding his tranny and hasn't had a chance to try it again.

  

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#3204, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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I realize no one has responded to this thread for awhile, but I just got to it after reading the one started last year that went on forever, and it sounds like no one has gotten this to work on our rides... I was curious if it does work on the avengers and we have the same TCU as them cant we just install one of their TCU in our rides hook it up and have it work? I dont really know how much a TCU cost, but if someone pulled on out from a totalled Avenger and tried it, it might be worth a shot... another question how much does it cost to reflash our TCU? DO you think this will do the trick? I guess now to wait and see what the feedback will be

  

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#3218, "RE: Wheres the new autostick write up?"
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Umm, really tired so Ill try to make as much sense as possible. No one has verified it working on an Eclipse. It works on Avengers for sure, they share TCU's (Im pretty sure, I don't own one though) with a Stratus, which is the code Alain flashed his Avenger with to get it working. I cannot verify whether or not we share the TCU and wiring necessary to allow Stratus code to work on our cars, I haven't heard of anyone doing it yet. I haven't checked the dealership yet on a reflash but someone here said about $100, and it's not a difficult, long drawn out proccess, they just plug into the OBD-II port and dump code. Hope this helped and I remembered everything.

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