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All4thaN0okieJan-30-02 01:05 PM
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#467, "Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"


          

has anyone redlined 5th gear?? i'm just curious as to how fast that would be.... also... when you add HP to your car...will it only make it get to top speed faster..or will it raise the top speed???


'95 Eclipse RS
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-Sony CDXM 750
-2 JL Audio 12w0 subs
-Premiere Amp
-CompuStar 2WAS Alarm with Remote Start and Pager
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-Enkei 15" wheels (came with the car)
-2nd Generation Altezza Tails
-Clear Bumper Lenses
-APC Speed Glo Mirrors (with turn signals)
-Red LED Washer Nozzles
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-K&N Filter

  

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RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, Thunderous_Talon, Jan-30-02 01:17 PM, #1
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, EsiTalon96, Jan-30-02 03:08 PM, #2
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, SaberKhan, Jan-30-02 03:23 PM, #3
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, daved, Jan-30-02 05:35 PM, #4
      RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, Fast420A, Jan-30-02 05:56 PM, #5
           RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, SaberKhan, Jan-31-02 03:52 AM, #6
                RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, All4thaN0okie, Jan-31-02 05:21 AM, #7
                     RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, Thunderous_Talon, Jan-31-02 05:47 AM, #8
                     RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, SaberKhan, Jan-31-02 06:22 PM, #9
                          RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, HadesOmega, Jan-31-02 07:52 PM, #10
                               RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, ModeratorEvuLFleA, Feb-01-02 02:32 AM, #11
                                    RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, Fast420A, Feb-01-02 06:40 AM, #12
                                         RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, dudasd, Feb-05-02 03:58 PM, #13
                                              RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, SaberKhan, Feb-10-02 03:28 AM, #14
                                                   RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, RyaN95i4, Feb-11-02 05:18 AM, #15
                     RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, soldier101, Feb-24-02 02:04 PM, #19
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, Mindz, Feb-13-02 12:57 PM, #16
      RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, ModeratoreclipzGST, Feb-18-02 06:05 AM, #17
           RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, EcLIpsInEmCEe7, Feb-18-02 03:55 PM, #18
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, RS_Guy, Mar-27-02 07:17 PM, #20
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, ModeratorVX100, Mar-28-02 01:54 AM, #21
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, RS_Guy, Mar-28-02 03:48 AM, #22
RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, ModeratorVX100, Mar-28-02 05:51 AM, #23
      RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???, RS_Guy, Mar-28-02 07:23 PM, #24

Thunderous_TalonJan-30-02 01:17 PM
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#468, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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N/A unless your going straight down a mountain its impossible to hit redline in 5th gear. the top speed doesnt change at all unless you have bigger rims and can get past the redline. i'm currently working on it with someone how to actually sneek past the redline. but i do believe we top out at 162 or so at fuel cut.

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EsiTalon96Jan-30-02 03:08 PM
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#469, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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The govener on your car doesnt let it go past 130mph because of the tires... they have mods to take that off, but you have to buy Z-rated tires.



  

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SaberKhanJan-30-02 03:23 PM
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#470, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Actually, on the 2gnt Eclipse/Talon, there is no governor. None, nada. Zippo, el zero. As far as top speed, redline should check it at a hair over 150mph. I've seen about 6800rpm in 5th gear, so I wouldnt say its impossible N/A.


91 awd: 60-1, 880's, E-Prom, etc.
93 awd: JDM 6 bolt, K&N, full exhaust, Wally 255, otherwise stock.

R.I.P. the original "Factory Freak"
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davedJan-30-02 05:35 PM
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#471, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Yup like he said, no governor for the non-turbo's.

1999 Eclipse RS (all show)
1990 Turbo Eclipse (race)

  

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Fast420AJan-30-02 05:56 PM
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#472, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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RS_Guy went 172 mph in his eclipse.




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Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
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225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
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Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
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SaberKhanJan-31-02 03:52 AM
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#473, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Unless he had a tranny swap with different gear ratios, I dont see how. Also, I know he had 17" wheels, so that will throw his speedo off. Another thing. At anything above 100+mph, your speedo will be off. Very off. Thats why I go by the tach. If his speedo read 170, he was probably doing about 155. Also, the speedo only reads to 170, how could he see it reading 172?


91 awd: 60-1, 880's, E-Prom, etc.
93 awd: JDM 6 bolt, K&N, full exhaust, Wally 255, otherwise stock.

R.I.P. the original "Factory Freak"
15.5's with short ram and catback only
1996 RS 5-speed

  

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All4thaN0okieJan-31-02 05:21 AM
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#474, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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just curious...why is the speedo off after 100???


'95 Eclipse RS
INTERIOR
-Sony CDXM 750
-2 JL Audio 12w0 subs
-Premiere Amp
-CompuStar 2WAS Alarm with Remote Start and Pager
EXTERIOR
-Enkei 15" wheels (came with the car)
-2nd Generation Altezza Tails
-Clear Bumper Lenses
-APC Speed Glo Mirrors (with turn signals)
-Red LED Washer Nozzles
PERFORMANCE
-K&N Filter

  

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Thunderous_TalonJan-31-02 05:47 AM
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#475, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Actually SaberKahn it was a digital reading on RS_Guys car, he put up pics of it. I cant remember what it was on, i wanna say HKS Type 1 TT, but i think thats wrong... his tranny was stock as well.

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SaberKhanJan-31-02 06:22 PM
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#476, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Well, if his transmission was stock, then yeah, its wrong. Check your speed versus RPM and how it changes in each gear. Going by numbers, 7k will be at a hair over 150mph He wouldve had to have been doing 9k or more to reach 170+mph.


91 awd: 60-1, 880's, E-Prom, etc.
93 awd: JDM 6 bolt, K&N, full exhaust, Wally 255, otherwise stock.

R.I.P. the original "Factory Freak"
15.5's with short ram and catback only
1996 RS 5-speed

  

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HadesOmegaJan-31-02 07:52 PM
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#477, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Dang that's fast hehe I"ve never gone past 130. Need some Z rated tires first hehe. THe HKS Type 1 reads in kilo per hour though. So he'd need to convert it using the tach. Hehe is there a way to switch it to MPH? That would be nice.


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ModeratorEvuLFleAFeb-01-02 02:32 AM
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#478, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Yeah it read out to be something like "279 KPH"

There is a webpage where you put in your gear rations and tire size and it will tell you what speed and rpm you will be at....And with Guy's setup it would have been true. I believe him 100%.

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#479, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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http://pw1.netcom.com/~sgalaba/mph.htm


Here's what you are talking about.

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Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

  

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#480, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Just remember....100 KM/PH = 62 MPH so the easy conversion is to multiply kilo's by .62, so 279K would be roughly 172 MPH....

  

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SaberKhanFeb-10-02 03:28 AM
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#481, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Ok, so the thing read 172mph. How the hell was he doing that on stock gear ratios? It would be impossible unless he was spinning his engine at 9k rpms.


91 awd: 60-1, 880's, E-Prom, etc.
93 awd: JDM 6 bolt, K&N, full exhaust, Wally 255, otherwise stock.

R.I.P. the original "Factory Freak"
15.5's with short ram and catback only
1996 RS 5-speed

  

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#482, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Wheatking (Dave, president of ASOG) topped his car out on a dyno. he has a 95 w/ 5 spd. redline in 5th gear was at 162mph. even if your making 900hp, redline in 5th gear is still gonna be 162mph, power doesnt change gear ratios, just how quickly you get thru em

as for the 172, i dont doubt thats the reading he got, but i guarantee its wrong, unless he was spinning 8500+ rpms

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#483, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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>just curious...why is the speedo off after 100???


yeah seriously, why is it off past 100?


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#484, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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>The govener on your car doesnt let it go past 130mph because
>of the tires... they have mods to take that off, but you
>have to buy Z-rated tires.
>


I've taken mine up to 142 all stock with two people., franted it was down a hill, top mph on straightaway is 138 with just me in it.




  

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#485, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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only have the govenor on GST's....

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#486, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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whats the cut off on a gst?

-matt

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RS_GuyMar-27-02 07:17 PM
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#487, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Hey guys.. sorry to pick up on this sooooo late! It is possible. Sure my speedo could have been off, but I did have an A'PEXi SAFC (so DIGITAL RPM reading) and a Blitz MSTT so (DIGITAL km/h).

Using the exact dimensions of my rims & tires (overall diameter a tad smaller than stock 14" setup) and a stock tranny.

Yes, I did use high speed tires and if you really wanna know, the car was lowered from the front only.

BTW sticking all the details into a proper gear calculator, will yield a max speed for us of about 173mph at 7500rpm in 5th gear. I couldn't believe it myself, so I did the maths too!

BTW both the SAFC and the MSTT have peak readings, and thats where I confirmed the readings from.

PPS Its freaky shit, be careful etc... I had 13" brakes

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#488, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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with stock diameter tires you'd top out at about 162mph, but if you use larger diameter tires, you lenghten the gear ratio and make the final drive ratio numerically smaller (from 3.94 to 1 to let's say 3.65 to 1). That would allow you to go at a higher top speed for the same engine RPM (IF you have the power to do it!)

speedos are off at 100+ mph because for our cars, they don't have to be accurate at that speed, we're not supposed to go that fast so it will error on the high side. would would want your speedo (for safety reasons ) to read 135 when your're going 150, or 165 when you're going 150? better to over-estimate speed so there is less chance to kill yourself, but I think once you're at 100, anything faster isn't going to make a difference, a crash at any of those speeds (unless you're ina BMW 5 or 7 series, or a mercedes on the autobahn) will turn your car into a metal accordian

"Tutto fa brodo."

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15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

  

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RS_GuyMar-28-02 03:48 AM
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#489, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Why 162mph max? My 17" Rims & Tires setup was just milimeters different in diameter to the stock setup...

Anyways here ya go:

Go here:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~sgalaba/mph.htm (Thanks Fast420A!)

Type these numbers in:

Tire Width in (mm): 215
Aspect Ratio: 45
Rim Diameter in (inch): 17
Transmission Gear Ratio: 0.81
Differential Ratio (final drive): 3.94

And the results reads:

Engine Speed (RPM): 7500
Speed (MPH): 172.12

There ya go, and if ya really wanna get nit-picky, my car used to rev-limit at 7549rpm (according to the SAFC peak reading when I hit fuel cut in 1st gear).

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#490, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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I just though that's what is was with our gear ratios. Guess it could be something else.

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

  

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#491, "RE: Has anyone redlined 5th gear???"
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Actually Todd, if you do go all out one day (I have faith in you ), being NA, you can rev her up without much fear of damage to about 9500+rpm (ECU REV delimited of course).

A well-built/reinforced 420A, can rev to that without much problems..

Anyone care to calculate the speed he will be travelling at in 5th gear @ 9500rpm?

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