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eclipse982nrRSTJul-08-07 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by pghsebring
Originally posted by quicksilver99 I know T-304 stainless doesn't take heat as well as T-321 stainless, and now where near as well as mild steel or cast iron. But for what this manifold is gonna see as far as "use and abuse" I'm more than positive that it's gonna last for quite a while. Yes there could have been fancy Swaged slip-jounts and flex bellows to make a bullet proof design, and there are more expensive materials available that take to heat alot better. But before this turns into some kind of war about cracking... I just want everybody to remember that Mike was just showin how his latest project has come. I only had a small part in it all but I think the manifold is just as much of a show piece as a performance part. It's all custom work wich is always somewhat of an experiment. And this is all his creation wich I think is very impressive.
I was never insulting at all - and have nothing against it - I even said I liked it. I was just pointing out what others who have run these manifolds in similar cars have said. Its not 304 or 321 that I was talking about, or the welds, or any fancy joints. What Len was pointing out was that when you hang a 20+ lb turbo on the end of the manifold, the heat cycles are going to cause it to crack. And the apparently obvious answer of binding the manifold up with a bunch of braces to itself to prevent this - but experience shows that binding it up like that causes cracks and damage just as easily as none at all. The stainless wants to flex, and will warp/crack things when bound up by braces to/from itself. That is what the people who have run these have to say about it. They all agree you must brace the turbo with some sort of tripod setup from the block to the bottom of the turbo, but still allow some lateral movement, and you cannot brace from the exhaust flange to the turbo flange. Now, I too agree that it is a nice show piece, and the design is great and all when it somes to HP and spooling a turbo. He did a good job. All I mentioned was the post from the other people who have done this - not as an insult, just pointing out some advice I thought you guys might want to know. I'm done repeating myself now, good luck.


Its a beefy manifold. Leave it at that. If and when it cracks, I will personally let you know.

But until then, its a badass piece of work. Amen.

-MIKE-

Stroked 2.2L

  

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Secret project revealed...pics. [View all] , eclipse982nrRST, Jul-09-07 10:10 AM
  RE: Secret project revealed...pics., freddy_00_69, Jun-27-07 03:14 PM, #1
RE: Secret project revealed...pics., totaleclipse_05, Jun-27-07 04:31 PM, #2
      RE: Secret project revealed...pics., chris712vt, Jun-27-07 05:19 PM, #3
      RE: Secret project revealed...pics., wolvorine4424, Jul-24-07 09:19 AM, #49
      RE: Secret project revealed...pics., 2GeclipseRS, Jun-27-07 05:40 PM, #4
           RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-28-07 12:33 AM, #5
                RE: Secret project revealed...pics., Moderatorcs82685, Jun-28-07 03:49 AM, #6
                RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-28-07 05:23 AM, #7
                     RE: Secret project revealed...pics., TeamDR1665, Jun-28-07 06:40 AM, #8
                          RE: Secret project revealed...pics., AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, Jun-28-07 07:10 AM, #9
                               RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-28-07 07:26 AM, #10
                RE: Secret project revealed...pics., 2GeclipseRS, Jun-28-07 09:01 AM, #11
                     RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-28-07 10:43 AM, #12
                          RE: Secret project revealed...pics., 2GeclipseRS, Jun-28-07 11:45 AM, #13
                               RE: Secret project revealed...pics., totaleclipse_05, Jun-28-07 03:28 PM, #14
                                    RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jun-28-07 03:51 PM, #15
                                    RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-28-07 04:02 PM, #16
                                         RE: Secret project revealed...pics., pghsebring, Jun-28-07 08:29 PM, #17
                                              RE: Secret project revealed...pics., barza21, Jun-29-07 12:26 AM, #18
                                              RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-29-07 12:31 AM, #19
                                                   RE: Secret project revealed...pics., vegasdsmr, Jun-29-07 09:51 AM, #20
                                                   RE: Secret project revealed...pics., lild14, Jun-29-07 11:39 AM, #21
                                                        RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jun-30-07 12:56 AM, #22
                                                   RE: Secret project revealed...pics., pghsebring, Jul-01-07 10:09 AM, #23
                                                        RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-01-07 03:38 PM, #24
                                                        RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-01-07 05:06 PM, #25
                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-02-07 12:30 AM, #26
                                                                  RE: Secret project revealed...pics., XMasta19, Jul-03-07 02:49 PM, #27
                                                                       RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-03-07 03:50 PM, #28
                                                                            RE: Secret project revealed...pics., pghsebring, Jul-05-07 09:50 AM, #29
                                                                                 RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-07-07 08:14 PM, #30
                                                                                      RE: Secret project revealed...pics., pghsebring, Jul-08-07 02:53 PM, #31
                                                                                           RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-08-07 03:59 PM #32
                                                                                                RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-09-07 09:03 AM, #33
                                                                                                     RE: Secret project revealed...pics., foggy45, Jul-09-07 09:25 AM, #34
                                                                                                          RE: Secret project revealed...pics., Teamdougie2, Jul-09-07 10:11 AM, #35
                                                                                                               RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-09-07 04:24 PM, #36
                                                                                                               RE: Secret project revealed...pics., 2GeclipseRS, Jul-19-07 11:13 AM, #48
                                                                                                               RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-09-07 04:59 PM, #37
                                                                                                                    RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-10-07 10:20 AM, #38
                                                                                                                         RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-10-07 10:22 AM, #39
                                                                                                                              RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-10-07 12:13 PM, #40
                                                                                                                                   RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-10-07 01:28 PM, #41
                                                                                                                                        RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-12-07 10:58 AM, #42
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., totaleclipse_05, Jul-12-07 12:18 PM, #43
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., eclipse982nrRST, Jul-12-07 02:42 PM, #44
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-13-07 06:12 AM, #45
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., dsmtuner1, Jul-13-07 01:03 PM, #46
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., turbo8u, Jul-14-07 01:41 PM, #47
                                                                                                                                             RE: Secret project revealed...pics., quicksilver99, Jul-24-07 05:49 PM, #50

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