Talon 2ga bumpers look better than eclipse's 2ga in my opinion and if I move to a 2gb bumper I would prefer a Talon 2gb... Anyway I want to keep my 2ga talon bumper for now, I never saw one with a lip (exept one custom made) and i'm sure it would look good and maybe better than 2gb bumpers...if I can find one that fits... My plan is to find a lip that looks good on an eclipse's 95-96 bumper, and fit it to the talon 95-96 bumper...if I don't find one maybe I will try to go home made...