I currently have the ebc red stuff pads with the ebc brake rotors. The pads work amazing, major improvement over stock. Uhm only bad thing is that they have only lasted me a year and it is already time to replace them. Don't know if it is because of the way i drive or what. But if you are going to be using these for racing, then they work amazing,but won't last you long. Also very little brake dust, which is a plus with for my chrome lip.