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The1BillSep-21-03 06:24 PM
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#59884, "RE: Let's talk pistons."
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Well, my point was that I do come to my own conclusions, and they very well may be completely different from my partner's. I can not be held responsible for his opinions, and in all fairness, he can not be held responsible for mine. Your post just rubbed me the wrong way, because I am almost positive who you are. I don't have any proof, so I will keep it to myself, but I dropped a few hints in the post.
All that I ask is that you give me a fair shot. I do not pull opinions out of my ass, and I really do understand the physics of motors and turbochargers. The 2.4 should be able to rev happily to 9K, just not for a prolonged period, which shouldn't be an issue if the motor has any power whatsoever, as it should not stay in the high RPMs for all that long. The rod length:stroke ratio in the 2.4 is not all that much worse then that of the 2.0, because the rods are lengthened. This is where Chrysler made a steep break from the Mitsubishi mentality. Rather then punching out the same casting, they used a different block that is also taller, in order to have a higher deck and longer rods. Hehe... yeah, my rods are longer then yours. So, the rod:stroke ratio of the 2.4 is about 1.5:1, which is within .1 of the B series Hondas. Also, the block is actually made of a decent piece of iron. The cylinder walls don't ovalize readily. In fact, a properly treated 420a will be rebuildable to stock bore after as many as 60K miles. Not that I would do it, but I have mic'd blocks with almost that many miles on it, and there had been no appreciable ovalization perpendicular to the thrust angle. I still did the right thing, though, and had the block bored out to spec with the new pistons. So, even though I didn't do it, I probably could have gotten away with a stock bore piston in the rebuild.
Now, about my "chronies," (see? That is a copy of your spelling error. What are they, timepieces?) they are simply people who appreciate the technical nature that I bring to my posts. I even try to make it all tangible, and try not to type above my audience, even if my audience is a 16 year old riceboy with altezzas and light up windshield washer nozzles. I guess it could be said that my posts are meant to be more inclusive. What can be said for yours, sir?
I seem to recall a post by someone who seems very similar to you. It was on another forum, had 4 letters, can't remember the name of it, off hand. But it states that you are not just a keyboard warrior and are willing to confront a stupid person in person, not just online. I can believe that. I can also attest to Marco's knowledge. I met him at this past shootout. Mind you, I had to do so in a setting other then where I was staying, as my local DSM club managed to piss him off something hardcore. Feel free to ask him how his scooter is running.

-=B-=

Dude, Boeing called. They want their wing back.

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Me: Can I put that in my sig?
Dark0ne95: GO right fucking ahead.

  

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Let's talk pistons. [View all] , mototool, Sep-17-03 04:40 AM
  RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-17-03 05:00 AM, #1
RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 05:09 AM, #2
RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 05:18 AM, #3
      RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-17-03 06:26 AM, #5
           RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 06:41 AM, #6
           RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-17-03 06:54 AM, #9
           RE: Let's talk pistons., safedawg, Sep-17-03 06:47 AM, #8
RE: Let's talk pistons., jamesman, Sep-17-03 05:19 AM, #4
      RE: Let's talk pistons., MmmDeion, Sep-17-03 06:46 AM, #7
           RE: Let's talk pistons., 420AYE, Sep-17-03 06:58 AM, #10
                RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 07:41 AM, #11
                RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-17-03 07:56 AM, #12
                     RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 08:11 AM, #13
                          RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-17-03 08:26 AM, #14
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamJeff_99gs, Sep-17-03 08:29 AM, #15
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., Uberingram, Sep-17-03 08:31 AM, #16
                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 08:36 AM, #17
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., turbo8u, Sep-17-03 08:39 AM, #18
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 08:46 AM, #19
                                              RE: Let's talk pistons., turbo8u, Sep-17-03 08:49 AM, #20
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 08:54 AM, #21
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., Uberingram, Sep-17-03 09:08 AM, #23
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamJeff_99gs, Sep-17-03 09:46 AM, #24
                RE: Let's talk pistons., Raven457, Sep-23-03 08:59 AM, #146
RE: Let's talk pistons., safedawg, Sep-17-03 09:08 AM, #22
RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-17-03 09:54 AM, #25
      RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 10:06 AM, #26
           RE: Let's talk pistons., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-17-03 10:13 AM, #27
                RE: Let's talk pistons., xEclipsE RaceRx, Sep-17-03 10:55 AM, #28
                RE: Let's talk pistons., 420AYE, Sep-17-03 11:09 AM, #29
                     RE: Let's talk pistons., Uberingram, Sep-17-03 11:32 AM, #30
                          RE: Let's talk pistons., 420AYE, Sep-17-03 11:43 AM, #31
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., Uberingram, Sep-17-03 12:37 PM, #32
                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., turbo8u, Sep-17-03 12:44 PM, #33
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamXtremeRS, Sep-17-03 01:00 PM, #34
                                              RE: Let's talk pistons., ez, Sep-17-03 01:19 PM, #35
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-17-03 03:11 PM, #36
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-17-03 03:16 PM, #37
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-17-03 06:20 PM, #38
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., Teamdougie2, Sep-17-03 07:03 PM, #40
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 04:06 AM, #44
                RE: Let's talk pistons., Teamdougie2, Sep-17-03 06:48 PM, #39
                     RE: Let's talk pistons., xEclipsE RaceRx, Sep-18-03 01:42 AM, #41
                          RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 02:54 AM, #42
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 03:49 AM, #43
                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 04:15 AM, #45
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 04:53 AM, #46
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 05:08 AM, #48
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., Teamdougie2, Sep-18-03 05:05 AM, #47
                                              RE: Let's talk pistons., mike_d, Sep-18-03 07:46 AM, #49
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 08:14 AM, #50
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 08:17 AM, #51
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., The1Bill, Sep-18-03 06:11 PM, #75
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., Teamdougie2, Sep-18-03 06:49 PM, #76
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., 420AYE, Sep-18-03 08:23 AM, #52
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 08:52 AM, #53
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-18-03 10:08 AM, #54
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 10:38 AM, #55
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-18-03 10:59 AM, #56
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-18-03 10:59 AM, #57
                                                                       RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 11:18 AM, #58
                                                                            RE: Let's talk pistons., Teametx, Sep-18-03 11:30 AM, #59
                                                                                 RE: Let's talk pistons., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-18-03 11:45 AM, #60
                                                                                 RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 11:46 AM, #61
                                                                                      RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-18-03 12:04 PM, #62
                                                                                      RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 12:13 PM, #63
                                                                                      RE: Let's talk pistons., ModeratorCorbin, Sep-19-03 03:16 AM, #84
                                                                                           RE: Let's talk pistons., jerseystyle1, Sep-19-03 03:27 AM, #85
                                                                                      RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-18-03 12:22 PM, #64
                                                                                           RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 12:24 PM, #65
                                                                                           RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-18-03 12:27 PM, #66
                                                                                                RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 12:28 PM, #67
                                                                                                     RE: Let's talk pistons., widebodied, Sep-18-03 02:53 PM, #68
                                                                                                          RE: Let's talk pistons., jerseystyle1, Sep-18-03 03:08 PM, #69
                                                                                                          RE: Let's talk pistons., pfmicks, Sep-18-03 03:45 PM, #71
                                                                                                          RE: Let's talk pistons., Teametx, Sep-18-03 03:16 PM, #70
                                                                                                               RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-18-03 04:23 PM, #73
                                                                                                               RE: Let's talk pistons., Teametx, Sep-18-03 05:52 PM, #74
                                                                                                               RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 02:56 AM, #82
                                                                                                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., Teametx, Sep-19-03 05:15 AM, #91
                                                                                                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-23-03 02:06 AM, #141
RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamJasonESi_T, Sep-18-03 04:11 PM, #72
RE: Let's talk pistons., Chamuko, Sep-18-03 08:08 PM, #77
RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-18-03 08:18 PM, #78
      RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-18-03 08:29 PM, #79
      RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-18-03 08:58 PM, #80
           RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 02:54 AM, #81
      RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 03:06 AM, #83
           RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 03:32 AM, #86
                RE: Let's talk pistons., extreme97nt, Sep-19-03 04:18 AM, #87
                RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-19-03 04:32 AM, #88
                RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-19-03 04:41 AM, #89
                     RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 05:03 AM, #90
                          RE: Let's talk pistons., Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Sep-19-03 05:30 AM, #92
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamXtremeRS, Sep-19-03 05:54 AM, #93
                               RE: Let's talk pistons., Eagle 5, Sep-19-03 05:59 AM, #94
                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 06:23 AM, #95
                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 06:41 AM, #96
                                              RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 07:20 AM, #97
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 07:37 AM, #98
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 07:45 AM, #99
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 07:53 AM, #100
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 07:55 AM, #101
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 08:06 AM, #103
                                                                       RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 08:12 AM, #104
                                                                       RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamJasonESi_T, Sep-19-03 10:29 AM, #110
                                                                            RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 10:50 AM, #112
                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamDeanoD, Sep-19-03 07:57 AM, #102
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 09:36 AM, #105
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 09:53 AM, #106
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-19-03 10:04 AM, #107
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamDeanoD, Sep-19-03 10:44 AM, #111
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., vtcomp, Sep-19-03 11:15 AM, #113
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamMichael_97RS, Sep-19-03 11:33 AM, #114
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamDeanoD, Sep-19-03 11:47 AM, #115
                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., TeamMichael_97RS, Sep-19-03 10:10 AM, #108
                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., whodatt1, Sep-19-03 10:27 AM, #109
                                                                  RE: Let's talk pistons., thedawg, Sep-19-03 01:23 PM, #116
                                                                       RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-19-03 05:40 PM, #117
                                                                            RE: Let's talk pistons., Chamuko, Sep-19-03 08:52 PM, #118
                                                                                 RE: Let's talk pistons., Shockeclipse, Sep-19-03 10:04 PM, #119
                                                                                      RE: Let's talk pistons., The1Bill, Sep-20-03 12:00 AM, #120
                                                                                           RE: Let's talk pistons., Remy, Sep-20-03 02:35 PM, #121
                                                                                                RE: Let's talk pistons., Chamuko, Sep-20-03 05:05 PM, #122
                                                                                                     RE: Let's talk pistons., KidEvo, Sep-20-03 05:16 PM, #123
                                                                                                          RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-20-03 09:24 PM, #124
                                                                                                               RE: Let's talk pistons., KidEvo, Sep-21-03 06:54 AM, #125
                                                                                                                    RE: Let's talk pistons., MotoFool, Sep-21-03 08:58 AM, #126
                                                                                                                         RE: Let's talk pistons., The1Bill, Sep-21-03 10:26 AM, #127
                                                                                                                              RE: Let's talk pistons., WIKKI, Sep-21-03 10:50 AM, #128
                                                                                                                                   RE: Let's talk pistons., mototool, Sep-21-03 03:06 PM, #129
                                                                                                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., calcio20, Sep-21-03 05:54 PM, #130
                                                                                                                                        RE: Let's talk pistons., The1Bill, Sep-21-03 06:24 PM #131
                                                                                                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., The1Bill, Sep-21-03 06:28 PM, #132
                                                                                                                                             RE: Let's talk pistons., Mannyyy, Sep-21-03 06:51 PM, #133
                                                                                                                                             Off topic, but my thoughts, TeamMuRiX, Sep-22-03 12:55 AM, #134
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-22-03 05:30 AM, #135
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, jerseystyle1, Sep-22-03 06:58 AM, #136
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Sep-22-03 08:28 AM, #137
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, The1Bill, Sep-22-03 01:59 PM, #138
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, The1Bill, Sep-22-03 07:34 PM, #139
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-23-03 05:04 AM, #142
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, MotoFool, Sep-23-03 08:54 AM, #145
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, vtcomp, Sep-23-03 01:51 AM, #140
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Chamuko, Sep-23-03 07:33 AM, #143
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, soulcontroller, Sep-23-03 08:10 AM, #144
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, vtcomp, Sep-23-03 10:02 AM, #147
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Sep-23-03 10:25 AM, #148
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, vtcomp, Sep-23-03 11:49 AM, #149
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-23-03 11:58 AM, #150
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, vtcomp, Sep-23-03 03:19 PM, #151
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-24-03 04:02 AM, #152
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Sep-24-03 07:58 AM, #153
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-24-03 08:25 AM, #154
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Sep-24-03 08:36 AM, #155
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, mototool, Sep-24-03 08:53 AM, #156
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, TeamDeanoD, Sep-24-03 11:16 AM, #157
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, MajinVejitaXV, Sep-24-03 04:11 PM, #159
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, vtcomp, Sep-24-03 11:28 AM, #158
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, SoCal99GS, Oct-21-03 10:07 AM, #160
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Oct-21-03 01:15 PM, #161
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, SoCal99GS, Oct-22-03 04:03 AM, #162
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Oct-22-03 05:51 AM, #163
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Matt_95tgs, Oct-22-03 11:06 AM, #164
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, KidEvo, Oct-23-03 07:55 PM, #165
                                                                                                                                             RE: Off topic, but my thoughts, Teametx, Oct-24-03 04:27 PM, #166

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