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jamezMay-14-04 01:56 PM
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#70952, "2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"




          


Questions :

1. Is there a turbo/turbos that will bolt-on to the 2.0 non-turbo engine? If so where can i find a price/part guideline...

2. will the turbo engine fit in the non-turbo car, what mods are neccessary to do so, (engine mounts? tranny?) etc.


Thanks for any help,
jamez

  

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siueclipseMay-14-04 02:18 PM
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#70955, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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search please. these topics have been discussed.



  

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jamezMay-14-04 02:21 PM
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#70956, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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Found some info on hahnracecraft... reading there. will post further questions later.

  

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#70957, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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jamezMay-14-04 02:36 PM
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#70958, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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thanks, i did a search for "turbo in 2.0" and came up with thousands of results and none of the first few seemed to have anything to do with it...

  

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siueclipseMay-14-04 02:51 PM
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#70962, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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try other terms



  

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MalenkoMay-14-04 03:04 PM
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#70965, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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just buy my car and the works done for you :p

  

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jamezMay-14-04 03:10 PM
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#70966, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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Ok what ive found out so far...

1. swapping engines is a bad idea
2. there are 2 turbo choices for the 2.0 - hahn's and star

im leaving work so im out of time to read...

i thought the whole point of these forums is to ask questions and discuss things, just b/c this stuff was discussed back in 2002 does that mean i should read through 300 posts to find a couple answers?



if anyone has the know and doesnt mind posting it...

1. wich models/engines are the ones with the crank walk

2. how strong is the 2.0 engine, how much boost/HP can it handle with the stock internals.

3. besides the hahns and star are there other bolt on turbos, and out of the ones avail. which performs best and is most reliable.

4. i have a 2.0 with 130,000 miles on it, would it be more practical to have the engine rebuilt or do a swap with another 2.0 from japan.


Thanks
jamez

  

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TeamXtremeRSMay-14-04 03:27 PM
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#70968, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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Originally posted by jamez
Ok what ive found out so far... 1. swapping engines is a bad idea 2. there are 2 turbo choices for the 2.0 - hahn's and star im leaving work so im out of time to read... i thought the whole point of these forums is to ask questions and discuss things, just b/c this stuff was discussed back in 2002 does that mean i should read through 300 posts to find a couple answers? if anyone has the know and doesnt mind posting it... 1. wich models/engines are the ones with the crank walk 2. how strong is the 2.0 engine, how much boost/HP can it handle with the stock internals. 3. besides the hahns and star are there other bolt on turbos, and out of the ones avail. which performs best and is most reliable. 4. i have a 2.0 with 130,000 miles on it, would it be more practical to have the engine rebuilt or do a swap with another 2.0 from japan. Thanks jamez


1.- Crank walk is only found to happen on 2nd gen, 4g63 engines, which were factory turbocharged. We use the Chrysler motor, wich is all non turbo from the factory.

2.- The 420A motor is pretty damn strong, but the weakest links are first the pistons, then the rods. For safe boost limits on stock internals, I would not push much more than 250 HP, or for a Hahn kit S16G turbo, no more than 8 psi, or a Star kit turbo, no more than 7-8psi.

3.-besides Hahn and Star, the only other route to take would be to put together your own custom setup. S16G and T3/T4 turbos are very popular for these motors, make good street power, and spool up pretty quick. You can use almost any small/medium sized turbo from any car really, but finding a exhaust manifold to fit the turbo is the hard part. This is where it becomes more custom..

4.- unless you have gobs of time and money, don't bother swapping in any other motor than the 420A, or the 2.4 chrysler motor...Do more searching, you will find every single answer as to why you dont want to swap in a turbo Mitsu 4g63 motor..

Do more searching, and do more reading. You would be very surprised how much you can learn just by going back through old topics, esp ones that have been discussed on more than one occasion..


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jamezMay-14-04 03:59 PM
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#70970, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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May-14-04 04:54 PM by jamez



          

thanx extreme.. you gotta be the nicest guy on this thing so far.

a few more

1. from reading in the past wasnt it either 6-bolt or 7-bolt mits. engines that had crank walk not "all" of them...? just curiousity..

2. i found the site for hahns but havent seen one for the star turbos.. anyone have a quick link

3. are there any sites that are specifically for eclipse/this 2.0 liter engine that show different turbos likes the t3/t4 you mentioned. I honestly know a little about internals but very little about turbos (i took apart a 2nd gen ford escort engine) and superchargers... are there any superchargers for this engine as well? (yes i read the supercharger topic and there none at the time)

4. im assuming the 2.0 is a 420A?

5. sorry for all the questions, i spent over a year working on a 94 escort (port and polish everything, bored cylinders, reinforced rods, gude cam, etc)... so this engine is a little new to me

i know theres a million sites about turbos but is there one or in specific for beginners where i can just learn about all the different components, etc.

Thanks
jamez

  

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turbo8uMay-14-04 04:58 PM
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#70972, "RE: 2.0 Non-Turbo FWD > into > TURBO"
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Originally posted by XtremeRS
or for a Hahn kit S16G turbo, no more than 8 psi


i hate it when people say that

but nevermind



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