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freshlaneJun-03-09 11:47 PM
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#106600, "14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"


          

So tonight I finished up my turbo setup. I'm using a 1g stock side mount intercooler, 1g stock intercooler piping, Greddy RS blow off valve, Custom oil drail line.

Issues: The only problems I have ran into so far are; 1) The actual bolting on turbo onto manifold. I had to remove studs from stock header and cut slots into the hole area so the bolts could slide in from the side. Otherwise it would not clear area above manifold flange. 2) The o2 housing on the stock 14b leaves it pointed towards radiator. The down pipe will basically need to be a quick 90 degree angle back toward the oil pan. 3) The stock jpipe is a tight fit. You must attach intercooler piping then bolt to turbo. For this setup I removed my AC so it would fit within space. So far with everything I have only spent about $300

Turbo/o2 housing/j pipe: $60
Autometer boost gauge: $50
Intercooler and piping: $30
Oil drain parts: $20
Sandwich adapter: $30
Pipe w/ Greddy RS: $100

I still need to mock up the oil feed line and find an FMU.

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneJun-03-09 11:50 PM
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#106601, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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That's a reat start. Way to work with whatcha got!

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Mike431635Jun-04-09 06:45 AM
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#106604, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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I would recommend not using the sandwich adapter as your feed. Tapping the back of the block is really simple and cheap as well, and its the "right" way to do it.

But looks good. Would love to see more detailed pics.

  

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freshlaneJun-04-09 09:45 AM
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#106605, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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I was going to use the oil pressure sender location but it is so much of a b!tch to get to and barely any room to work around. Kudos to everybody that was able to use it. I just couldn't deal with the headache. Also, another member on here is using the sandwich adapter and hasn't had problems or leaks so I opted for the easier of the two evils. BTW, dropping and tapping that oil pan was a p.i.t.a

  

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ModeratorxcasbonxJun-04-09 12:00 PM
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#106606, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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Nice job man, you're on your way! What are your plans for fuel?


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freshlaneJun-04-09 02:27 PM
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#106607, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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I picked up a Paxton FMU today for $60. It was a steal. I'm going to stick with the fmu @ 7psi. I'm connecting the jpipe off the turbo straight to the stock wastegate. Everything is ready to go except finishing the exhaust & oil feed line routing. I can't wait till it is finished.

  

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freshlaneJun-07-09 12:30 AM
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#106631, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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Car was finished yesterday morning. Today I put in 110oct and it was good to go. Boosting currently 8psi and a/f is almost perfect at WOT. Huge difference on these cars. I made my kit for a grand total of about $500 after getting custom exhaust work done to clear radiator.

  

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freshlaneJun-07-09 12:32 AM
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#106632, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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I used break line tubing for the oil feed and fuel hosing for the union points where it comes off the sandwich adapter and where the line connects to the stock turbo banjo flange.

  

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#106633, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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Originally posted by freshlane
Car was finished yesterday morning. Today I put in 110oct and it was good to go. Boosting currently 8psi and a/f is almost perfect at WOT. Huge difference on these cars. I made my kit for a grand total of about $500 after getting custom exhaust work done to clear radiator.


Nice! I love reusing/altering stock. And an economy build to boot Right up my alley.

Couple of questions, why the 110oct? And how long do you think that 4 way union on the mani is going to last without cracking?

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CyexmasterJun-07-09 12:01 PM
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#106635, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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Nice job man! would love to see more detailed pics!

I would recomend porting out the mani and hot side of the turbo a lil flow wont hurt lol. BTW what diameter exhaust did you use 2.5 ?


Also might want to use the heat wrap on the down pipe to reduce the engine bay temp. And the stock header heat shield for extra sleeper ... got to love that sleeper kit. Bet you are having lots of fun boosting!


Got to say that boost is so addictive!

I started with 4psi, then 8, then 10 and then 12psi. I did get 241whp @ 10psi with nothing to tune execept my 1:1 FPR. that with a side mount and a ported intake mani that I ported my self with a dremel and a Modern Performance throttle I used 2.5 all the way from the turbo till the back; with no resonators or cat. Hope that helps you.

Let us know how it turns out!

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freshlaneJun-09-09 06:22 AM
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#106637, "RE: 14b on stock manifold - I did it so can you"
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1:1 FPR? Explain please. In response to the question on cracking... I would give it about 2-3 months as it stands right now. As you know that is A LOT of weight to be hanging off a stock header. Hopefully today I will be able to rig/weld some sort of support for the turbo & manifold. I also plan to heat wrap the manifold to lessen the risk and keep temps down as bulletdsm said. I was running 110oct just to be on the safe side for the first time I floored it. The AC would probably work with this setup. I took mine out because it was not being used any how. The radiator fan had to be trimmed a little bit in order to avoid hitting the wastegate on the turbo. I'll try and get some more pictures up once I get out of class. Nothing like school at 7am.

  

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