#1775, "Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss"
I've been really thinking about selling the GST to have money to move and go to college. Now, the only way I would do this is if I get a GSX(or maybe GST) down the road, when money flowing in, or just sell it and get the GSX now , or keep the GST and keep modding it.
QUESTIONS/CONCERNS:
Right now traction isn't a huge issue(launches suck though). I've always wondered how much difference(if any) in highway performance between the FWD and AWD there is. Someday I'd wish to have 350-400WHP, I know the GST would dominate most cars on the highway with that, but on the other hand, 1st and 2nd gear wouldn't be much use. My thought is with 350-400HP(don't know about AWHP) with the GSX, the drivetrain loss wouldn't matter, because, well, it's 400HP. What I'm getting at is, somebody race a 400HP GST vs. a 400HP GSX . I'd like you AWD guy's opinions on the drivetrain loss aspect.
#1779, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 3 Jul-11-05 08:56 AM by 420a-Tnthewerks
Originally posted by BigBald You will need to make alittle more power then the FWD guy to make up for the difference in gearing and Drivetrain loss.
Right, but what are your highway/roll-on encounters like?
This is just a really hard choice because I Love the GST. All stock when I got it, still in excellent condition with minor do-dad's. I just know I'm never going to stop modding, then soon traction will be the death of me.
What is the loss, 50% for AWD and about 20% for FWD?
#1780, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 4
I heard as low as 15% and as high as 29%. I can tell you that Martin from AMS did back to back Dyno's with an Evo. On a FWD dyno they made 620whp and on the AWD dyno it made 605whp. That is only a 2.5% difference when he thought it would be a hell of alot more.
Personally, with FWD cars at about the same power level when i had my 16g, i would get slaughtered from a roll. They were 1g FWD vehicles though so you also need to take in account the weight. Traction will not be your enemy if you get LSD and a nice set of slicks. I know a guy on our DSMlink board who took he FWD 2g into the 10s on a t-67 turbo @35psi. He even launches at 6500 rpm...lol.
_____________________________________________ Jerrome B. 1995 GSX - Race 1997 GST - Drive 1995 GST - Who the hell knows
#1782, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 6
when do you really ever race on the highway anyways? Highway racing seems to me like it emerged because kids with modded hondas couldn't race from a stop worth shit. Every day I wish I had AWD...now i'm looking at a huge expense to change platforms AGAIN and i'm wondering if its even worth it, or if I should just say "fuck it" and buy something cheap and reliable and a motorcycle.
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#1783, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 7
I have riden in both a high HP FWD and AWD. From a roll they feel very much different, but the AWD is definitely more fun. This dude had about 400 FWHP and in 3rd gear his tires broke loose and the car started veering off to the right. A high HP AWD will not break the tires and will go straight and true, and it is still fast as hell. Go AWD, unless you care about gas mileage. In that case, go with FWD.
#1784, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 8
Originally posted by FlyinEsi I have riden in both a high HP FWD and AWD. From a roll they feel very much different, but the AWD is definitely more fun. This dude had about 400 FWHP and in 3rd gear his tires broke loose and the car started veering off to the right. A high HP AWD will not break the tires and will go straight and true, and it is still fast as hell. Go AWD, unless you care about gas mileage. In that case, go with FWD.
Do you ever race from a roll? What have you beat or lost to? I'm just trying to get a perspective here because I've never ridin in an AWD car.
What Vandy said is exactly what I'm talking about. What's your estimated horsepower and when can you get serious traction? You don't have an LSD do you?
#1785, "RE: Discussion on FWD vs. AWD; Traction vs. Drivetrain loss" In response to Reply # 9
once you get some real power FWD gets annoying on the street and you spin everywhere. Even my slow ass turbo 2gnt had traction problems. Now that I got AWD I love it. Great in all kinda of weather. Might be heavy as crap and not as good as FWD on the highway but I'll just have to make up for that w/ upgraded turbo's! -Dave
2009 Corolla S - waiting until 2012 for my next toy! *SOLD* 1992 3000GT VR4 - pearl white and 45,6xx miles! *SOLD* 2007 Subaru Legacy GT sedan *SOLD* 95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 - BPU *SOLD* 97 Eclipse GS Star Stage 2
, or keep the GST and keep modding it.
