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flamineclipseSep-21-12 07:26 PM
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#137335, "ARP head stud install question "


          

I just put these studs in my head and used the 70 ft pounds that they recommended in their instructions. I noticed while searching the site that most of you are using 90-100 pounds. Why is that, and should I put more torque on them tomorrow?


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barza21Sep-22-12 02:07 AM
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#137343, "RE: ARP head stud install question "
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When I rebuit my engine and upgraded to the ARP studs, I did 90ft/lbs. 40,000 miles later and the gasket is still holding fine.

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=103361&mode=full

Somebody in that post suggested that the additional torque could be due to the higher pressure numbers seen in the combustion chamber in a turbocharged engine, "but the arp torque numbers are really for a NA motor if you turbocharge the motor the pressure in the cylinder is higher and a greater clamping load is needed to prevent head-gasket failure." Another poster mentioned something about thermal expansion.

Those are just a couple of ideas that I found on a quick search. I'm sure there's more information laying around somewhere in this site.

Here's an extra one just in case you need more reassurance that everything should be ok:

http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=set_threaded_mode&forum=8&page=&topic_id=64941&prev_page=show_mesg

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flamineclipseSep-22-12 06:47 AM
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#137344, "RE: ARP head stud install question "
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Thanks for the help man! I was having to search from my phone and every time I backed out if a topic, I had to start all over.


  

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ModeratorbullettdsmSep-23-12 03:39 AM
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#137345, "RE: ARP head stud install question "
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Honestly, I do mine from just past experience on 4G63's and 420a's. My NA's and turbo's have all gotten over 90. I guess I've always looked at the manufacturers numbers as a suggestion. And I work off those numbers as I see fit.

Because, obviously, I know better than their millions of dollars of R + D

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flamineclipseSep-23-12 12:41 PM
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#137346, "RE: ARP head stud install question "
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Originally posted by bullettdsm
Honestly, I do mine from just past experience on 4G63's and 420a's. My NA's and turbo's have all gotten over 90. I guess I've always looked at the manufacturers numbers as a suggestion. And I work off those numbers as I see fit. Because, obviously, I know better than their millions of dollars of R + D

I went ahead and torqued them to 90. You think that's enough?


  

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SilvrEclipsSep-23-12 02:40 PM
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#137347, "RE: ARP head stud install question "
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That should be fine. I torqued mine to the ARP recommended torque and was spraying coolant out the block at high boost. Retorqued the same gasket to 90-100ft.lbs and never had an issue.

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