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3454, GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
One thing after another....got the car all running good and everything, ready for DSMlink, my cousin is in town and a friend...showing off the car a little bit, and I ended up blowing a radiator hose or something...ANTIFREEZE everywhere!!! Slipping belts, shorting out battery, and somehow my tranny doesn't like coming out of 1st gear.

*Sigh* This car could make me cry
3455, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by injendsm, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
sell it and buy an nt imo :P
3456, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Mattcky2k, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Welcome to the 4G63 valve tickin, tranny throwin, valve cover leakin, crank walkin, Im going to the track cause my car's almost running right club.
3457, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Blizare, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Mattcky2k
Welcome to the 4G63 valve tickin, tranny throwin, valve cover leakin, crank walkin, Im going to the track cause my car's almost running right club.


OMGTHATSFUNNY!

N/T fo life foo!!
3458, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Seriously guys, I feel like I'm going to go through some vicious cycle...I'm going to get absolutely everything fixed on my car and then I'm going to start over with the same problems in the first place and have to fix them again...



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3459, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
Seriously guys, I feel like I'm going to go through some vicious cycle...I'm going to get absolutely everything fixed on my car and then I'm going to start over with the same problems in the first place and have to fix them again... Reverse El-Glo HVAC Panels Update: Tooling Started Expected Release Date: June 1st
Originally posted by DR1665 bubble = teh bust3d. x(



How many HPs are you putting down anyway?

More hp=more problems... kinda like that puff daddy song.

My car, slow, yet reliable.


-------jezreel
1998 GS with hrc stage 2, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler
Boostin since Aug 03.

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

3460, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by jsupetran, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by injendsm
sell it and buy an nt imo :P


That made me laugh for some reason. :P

-------jezreel
1998 GS with hrc stage 2, sfmu, ml, prokits, egt, boost gauge, apexi tt, haydans tranny cooler, costum dp, dr. uber groundwires, dynotune fp gauge. gst muff, turbo spoiler
Boostin since Aug 03.

nothing like driving with the windows down and the music low: i love hearing the turbo spool, swwwhhhttt!!!!
thanks for www.kaptainmyke.com for the sig hosting :thumbsup

3461, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by chrysler kid, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
and thus the reason why you shouldnt buy a already heavily modded car. you dont know for sure what has happened with it or what is problems are. yeah my car is slow but its runs awesome since its so close to stock, and then i get to know its quirks and such
3462, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
So far the car has not had THAT many problems, just a bunch of little tiny problems that are driving me nuts. JSupertn(sp) that car SHOULD have 300+HP, unverified to date yet, the engine runs good...now...pulls very hard, and I think the money I am putting into small repairs has probably totalled like $200, which in my eyes, is still worth it for the price I paid to not have to install everything that is on it.



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Originally posted by DR1665 bubble = teh bust3d. x(
3463, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by etx, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by chrysler kid
and thus the reason why you shouldnt buy a already heavily modded car. you dont know for sure what has happened with it or what is problems are. yeah my car is slow but its runs awesome since its so close to stock, and then i get to know its quirks and such


My 2gnt is heavily modded and it runs like a champ. It's never left me stuck anywhere, and it's quick. Sell it and buy an NT - Team 2GNT. :7
3464, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by steve0677, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
you are allowed to pick two

speed
reliable
cheap
3465, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by BigBald, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Seriously, what do you think happens when you start modding cars. You want to go fast then you are going to break shit....plain and simple. How many problem free modded cars do you know of?
3466, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by woo2gnt97, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
lol, replace all the broken or slightly malfunctioning parts w/ newer, stronger parts that make your car faster and more reliable. I've been doing that on my vr4 for a year ... $10k later it still doesn't run right bahahahaha
3467, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by BigBald, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
IT is never fun if it is easy. Radiator hose is an easy fix. Water Pump may be alittle more of a problem if broken.....lol.
3468, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by PowerEclipses, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
300whp? I see the mods you have in the pic but do you have anything else. Just curious I have alot of the same stuff you do. And yes, the GSX gets on my nerves, lately my battery has been pissing me off so i just bought a new one at walmart for 30 bucks. WOOHOO!
3469, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Maybe you guys can help me diagnose my problem.

Filled up the radiator with water, topped it off, didn't take much, then I went to the carwash to wash all the shit off from the "incident". I start spraying away and this shit is not coming off. Antifreeze should come off no problem with hot water. It is darker than antifreeze, so I'm wondering if it is A) oil from the headgasket, or B) oil from the tranny.

The lower radiator hose has signs of leakage, gross green crusty stuff around the end of the hose, but when I'm watching underneith there, I can't see it spraying anywhere! I talked to my dad, told him with the extra water in the antifreeze mixture the car starts to overheat fairly quickly with very little throttle, he thinks that could be a blown headgasket. (Probably should change that anyway) What I don't understand, if the headgasket blew, how would it get clear the hell over everything? If it is antifreeze, why won't it wash off.

Also, this shit must have gotten on the belts. When I first noticed the problem, the belts squeeked like a motherF. Here is the weird part about the belts...when the car is at idle there are no squeeks or anything, but when my RPMs get over 1K the belts squeek when the car is first started and the battery and parking break lights come on. WTF As soon as the car goes back down to idle the 2 lights go back out. I don't get

To top it all off, whatever sprayed all over, either broke my boost controller knob, or melted 1/2 of it off...very strange.

If you guys have any suggestions, please let me know. I am baffled on this one and could really use your help.





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3470, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by BigBald, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Battery Acid possibly? Anything on the battery?
3471, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by 98starGS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
i was just goin to say that..
3472, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Jeff_99gs, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Maybe it is time to blame the operator for the endless problems instead of the car?


Sounds like you blew the shit out of the headgasket. Either that or you have a serious leak in your coolant system that you somehow can't find.
3473, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I never said it was the cars fault...I was running the car very very hard this weekend. I'm starting to lean towards a tranny fluid problem. This stuff that is sprayed all over the engine bay does not come off with bug/tar/oil remover and my neighbor came out and said tranny fluid will either discolor the paint or remove it...it is doing both.

Jeff, I'm sure the problem is me...that car would be running just fine if I hadn't been so hard on it. The first few things I have fixed have been warn out things I noticed when I bought the car, I knew they were going to be problems, just didn't know when. This is the first one that is really surprising.

Edit: It could be battery acid, but there is very little anything on the battery...it is everywhere else though.



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3474, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by chrysler kid, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
probably have some burned anti-freeze in the alternator shortin it out. let it dry over night and see what happens tomorrow
3475, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
It already sat last night



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3476, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by woo2gnt97, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
I never said it was the cars fault...I was running the car very very hard this weekend. I'm starting to lean towards a tranny fluid problem. This stuff that is sprayed all over the engine bay does not come off with bug/tar/oil remover and my neighbor came out and said tranny fluid will either discolor the paint or remove it...it is doing both. Jeff, I'm sure the problem is me...that car would be running just fine if I hadn't been so hard on it. The first few things I have fixed have been warn out things I noticed when I bought the car, I knew they were going to be problems, just didn't know when. This is the first one that is really surprising. Edit: It could be battery acid, but there is very little anything on the battery...it is everywhere else though. Reverse El-Glo HVAC Panels Update: Tooling Started Expected Release Date: June 1st
Originally posted by DR1665 bubble = teh bust3d. x(



heh, but if you don't drive it hard why would you have it? We don't mod our cars to baby it and bench race ... do we?

:)

3477, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Here is another question...do you guys think it is safe to drive my car 2 miles each way to work? or should I just park the car and find another way to get to work until I get it fixed?



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3478, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by chrysler kid, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
if all the belts are still there just drive it and bring along jumper cables
3479, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by HybriDSM, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
A) To diagnose the problem, post this in the 1g section so it doesn't get lost out of place in the pits.

B) Driving the car hard at all without some sort of monitoring device is plain terrible. Who knows how the car is running, and what issues it has. I understand how much you want to get it running and out on the road, but trust me, doing what you are doing (no monitoring) is going to end up destroying the engine and getting the car off the road for a year.

Be smart. Take care of the little stuff first, then romp on it. I learned my lesson the very hard way, and I hope you won't have to do the same. In 1 month, my car will have been off the road for 1 year due to my stupidity. Don't do it to yourself.
3480, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Diceman19, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by FlyinEsi
Maybe you guys can help me diagnose my problem. Antifreeze should come off no problem with hot water. It is darker than antifreeze, so I'm wondering if it is A) oil from the headgasket, or B) oil from the tranny. The lower radiator hose has signs of leakage, gross green crusty stuff around the end of the hose, but when I'm watching underneith there, I can't see it spraying anywhere! I talked to my dad, told him with the extra water in the antifreeze mixture the car starts to overheat fairly quickly with very little throttle, he thinks that could be a blown headgasket. (Probably should change that anyway) What I don't understand, if the headgasket blew, how would it get clear the hell over everything? If it is antifreeze, why won't it wash off. Also, this shit must have gotten on the belts. When I first noticed the problem, the belts squeeked like a motherF. Here is the weird part about the belts...when the car is at idle there are no squeeks or anything, but when my RPMs get over 1K the belts squeek when the car is first started and the battery and parking break lights come on. WTF As soon as the car goes back down to idle the 2 lights go back out. I don't get To top it all off, whatever sprayed all over, either broke my boost controller knob, or melted 1/2 of it off...very strange. If you guys have any suggestions, please let me know. I am baffled on this one and could really use your help.


you try tightening your belts, most loose belts will squeak when given a little throttle. also, your battery light coming on could be your belt not turning enough since it is slipping. the brake light indicates low fluid. dont know where you live but sometimes mine comes on when it is really cold on a cold start. it gets thick. probly needs changed or topped off.
the boost controller button may be too close to your manifold or too close to the radiator hose. it does get hot under there. good luck.
3481, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by eclipzGST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
1st things first:
Find whats leaking and where it's leaking from....

If the coolant was still almost full, I doubt it was coolant.
Drain EVERYTHING, flush and replace it. Coolant, oil, tranny fluid...
Make sure to drain coolant and oil into clear containers to look for mixture in case it is the HG.
Then start it up and look for leaks. If you don't see any right away, take it for a nice easy drive then park it and let it sit. Check for fresh puddles after a few min.
3482, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Vandy420a, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Diceman19
< [/div> you try tightening your belts, most loose belts will squeak when given a little throttle. also, your battery light coming on could be your belt not turning enough since it is slipping. the brake light indicates low fluid. dont know where you live but sometimes mine comes on when it is really cold on a cold start. it gets thick. probly needs changed or topped off. the boost controller button may be too close to your manifold or too close to the radiator hose. it does get hot under there. good luck.


I hafta disagree on this one. You have a multitude of problems, but the batt light/ebrake light combo indicates a bad alternator, probably from the fluid spraying. The diff. in RPM only makes me think this is more true. however, the diff in RPM could also mean the belt is slipping at higher RPM making the alternator not turn, i.e. bad readout. But this is a small fish we're trying to fry here, find the leak first, then change the alt. belt, and if the light prob still persists the alternator is probably shot.
3483, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I'm pretty sure I have the problem finalized. The battery in the car blew a cap and sprayed all over my engine compartment...it has gotten on my paint, I/C pipes, intake piping, BOV, firewall, heat shield on hood, pictures to follow...I have contacted my battery company and they will be running an investigation for possible damage compensation.







3484, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Diceman19, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
that boost controller knob looks like it was broken off and not burned or heated. if the liquid is battery acid, sue. :thumbsup dont know if battery acid comes off of paint and equipment.
3485, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
The boost knob was just fine hours before this happened...it has to have been "eaten" by the acid. I'm not worrying about sueing at this point. I have already contacted the battery company and they are going to look into (investigation, I think) and they have asked me to put together an estimated damage figure for them. They are very pleasant to work with, hopefully it all works out.
3486, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by Diceman19, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
nice. i figured it would be like trying to get your money back from an insurance company. :D
3487, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by eclipzGST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thats some FUKKED up shit right there!
3488, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by All4thaN0okie, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
what kinda battery?? how old was it??
3489, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Optima Red Top - 2 months old

Just bought an Optima Yellow Top last night...$180, fuckin' ouch!



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3490, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by HybriDSM, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
How the hell did the red top explode like that? Damn, I was just about to order one too. Murphy's law gets me once again.
3491, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by eclipzGST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I've had my red top for 3 yrs with no problems. I thought they were Gel-cell. Wouldn't that have been thicker and not so watery?
3492, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
These battery are dry-cell batteries...and I don't know what the hell it looks like, it was just all of a sudden all over the place.
3493, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by turbo8u, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
is that thing even gunna be running when i come out there?
3494, RE: GSX is down again...
Posted by FlyinEsi, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Who knows dude...this car is day to day...it is running right now, but I don't want to run it hard again until I get all of this shit fixed and DSMlink put in...then I can find out what she is made of.
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