I'm running 17 x 7 Enkei or52 with 38 offset and I got 235 45's on it and they fit fine. I know I don't have the 8.5" or 9" width rim you're asking about, but I figured I'd give my two cents. I'm running stock height for now, but the tires don't sit flush or stick out past the fenders. I don't see any issues with rubbing when I do lower it, being that I have enough clearance and won't need to even roll my fenders. Hope this helps a little.