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Forum nameManual Trans - NV-T350
Topic subject5spd man swap having trouble with starter
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8695, 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I followed the corbin swap to the T and i was going to wiring a push button switch to the starter but im having trouble getting the starter to even turn over. I tried to even wire the starter directly to the battery off the positive and nothing is happening. I took the starter to get tested and it works fine on the machine. Any help would be great.
8696, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by CODE4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
How are you wiring it up?
8697, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
im going from the push button to the starter and from the push button to the possitive side on the battery
8698, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by CODE4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Geimers1
im going from the push button to the starter and from the push button to the possitive side on the battery


Let's try this again, my fault for not asking for detail I guess. What gauge wiring are you using? Are you using a relay to power the starter solenoid. What is the switch rated for (Amps)? Is it a push button momentary or latching push button (push for on, push again for off)? Where did you buy the switch, is it some VatoZone stuff? Most switches are not going to have a sufficient enough rating (push button ones anyway).

Is the circuit fused within a few inches of the battery connection? Is the wire from the switch going directly to the starter or the solenoid? Be as specific as possible.

Worst case scenario, you overloaded the push button switch you have and possibly fried some of the wiring. On the bright side, you avoided a potential wire fire and did not burn your car down.
8699, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
im useing a 18 guage wire there is one wire that goes to the starter and there is one wire that goes to the battery its just a regular push button i got it from auto zone its 60 amps heres the link

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Dorman-Conduct-Tite-60-Amps-starter-switch-with-sealed-push-button/_/N-2666?counter=0&filterByKeyWord=push+button&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=6459_0_0_
8700, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
theres no relay just one wire to the starter and one to the battery i have also wired the clutch so when i push it in the car starts but that didnt work either i know my wireing is right could i have missed something else
8701, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by CODE4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Geimers1
i know my wireing is right could i have missed something else


Your wiring is not right.

Are you familiar with wire gauge current limits? 18 gauge is not safe to provide power to the solenoid. The switch at 60 AMPS is though. I would replace all your wiring with heavier primary wiring.

Also, you never answered many of my questions. Fused? You are asking for a car fire if you have high current running un-fused. You also have no mention of the heavy gauge (4 ga?) from the fuse box to the starter. Is that in place?
8702, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
ok so im going to replace the wire with 10guage and put a relay does it need to go to the power on the starter or the solenoid also i cut the old parks nature switch and sodered it to the pin useing the the red wire and the black with white stripe then i was also reading on there that there was two black wire with yellow stripe the needed to be ground so i cut that and ground them was i supose to do that?
8704, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by CODE4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Geimers1
ok so im going to replace the wire with 10guage and put a relay does it need to go to the power on the starter or the solenoid also i cut the old parks nature switch and sodered it to the pin useing the the red wire and the black with white stripe then i was also reading on there that there was two black wire with yellow stripe the needed to be ground so i cut that and ground them was i supose to do that?


I am not going to attempt to decipher that run-on sentence. Please use spell check as well.

You can use a relay, I feel it is safer. But since you have a high current switch and will use capable wire, it will work.

You must fuse high current circuits or you are playing with fire. I am not going to say this again.

If you are running a dedicated switch and power wire to the starter, any safety wiring dealing with the clutch or park/neutral safety switch is bypassed. I am not sure why you are bothering with it.
8703, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
i dont have a wire that goes from the fuse box to the starter
8705, RE: 5spd man swap having trouble with starter
Posted by Geimers1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
i did the atmt sawp and im trying to get my car to start it wont do anything
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