Well whats up guys Im having problems with my tranny and its pretty annoying. It all started when I changed both left and right axles and a lot of transaxle fluid leaked out. At first the car drove normal than out of no where my odd numbered gears were hard to get into. I literally had to jam it in which wasnt too bad until this morning on my way to work all my gears started acting up. I just finished making a left turn and downshifted into 2nd gear to slow down and notice my gear box felt all loose and rough. Whenever I switch gears there is little effort neede and feels rough like a lot of clicks. The car still drives normal just feels weird like there is no lubrication.

And now for my question, do you think I need to replace the fluid or could it be any other weird "fuck you for buying a dsm" problem? I stopped by walmart to buy some mopar atf+4 transaxle fluid but it seems they dont carry it anymore. By this time the parts center at the stealership was closed but I saw all the bottles for the nvt350 transmission just out of my reach. They are not open on Sunday so where else can I get fluid for my nvt350 that will not kill the synchros?


Thanks for listening to my troublesome dsm adventures.....

http://www.amsoil.com/catalog.aspx?GroupID=212

Did you refill the transmission after all that leaked out?

The first axle I had a shop replace forme which I garauntee you they most likely they did not but the second axle I let my school's auto class change it while I helped. We didnt expect a lot of fluid to leak out so I didnt bring any fluid with me. It has only been one week since the scond axle change so most likely it needs to be drained and refilled. As for the brand I am kinda skeptic on using non dealer fluid but just need some reassurance from others on what to use.

if you don't want to use amsoil, go for the mopar 4874464. They're the exact same other than amsoil's increased kinamatic viscosity, flash point, foam stability, etc.

If you google 4874464, it an exact cross over to the link I posted before. Do whatever you want. Put water in it for all I care. :wallbash

Originally posted by FunkDocta
The first axle I had a shop replace forme which I garauntee you they most likely they did not but the second axle I let my school's auto class change it while I helped. We didnt expect a lot of fluid to leak out so I didnt bring any fluid with me. It has only been one week since the scond axle change so most likely it needs to be drained and refilled. As for the brand I am kinda skeptic on using non dealer fluid but just need some reassurance from others on what to use.

Either will work. I used dealer fluid just because I didnt know about the other. Your tranny is most likely going to continue having problems since you ran it on low fluid.

Originally posted by Tuxdreamerx
Either will work. I used dealer fluid just because I didnt know about the other. Your tranny is most likely going to continue having problems since you ran it on low fluid.

True dat. I run Amsoil in my vehicles.

In addition to the fluid, check and see if either of your horseshoe clips fell off. They are the clips that hold the shifter cables to the tranny. Could be just coincidence that they came off when your fluid was low.

Originally posted by bullettdsm

Originally posted by Tuxdreamerx Either will work. I used dealer fluid just because I didnt know about the other. Your tranny is most likely going to continue having problems since you ran it on low fluid.

True dat. I run Amsoil in my vehicles. In addition to the fluid, check and see if either of your horseshoe clips fell off. They are the clips that hold the shifter cables to the tranny. Could be just coincidence that they came off when your fluid was low.

Haha I forgot about that I have lost those damn clips 3 times since I got my car running last year. I dunno why they fall off so easily. Then again my car rides pretty rough.

put a little blue loctite on the clips before slipping them into place. They won't go anywhere.

Well I ended up paying a little visit to my local chrysler dealership only to get told that they would not recommend using Mopar ATF+4 fluid and that I should head on down to the mitsu dealer and get fluid from there WTF!!! SO i just bit the bullet and went to my local mitsu dealership and they had manual transmission fluid for the nvt350 which I was pretty surprised they had. Cost $15 a fucking quart but I really had no choice at the time need my car running now. After draining out the oild fluid and filling it back up I quickly start the car only to find out reverse doesn't work yay. My 2nd and 4th gears also work when they feel like it so Im kinda stumped and frustrated right now. But hey at least it shifts smoothly..........

So almighty 2gnt gods why the fuck am I cursed with problem after problem? Im thinking worst case scenario it might be the synchros finally taking a dump on me. What do you guys think? The shifter goes into place through all the 3 bad gears just does not hook on like the other do.

Originally posted by FunkDocta
why the fuck am I cursed with problem after problem?

you're not cursed, its a 2gnt, thats the way it goes. It's normal for 2gnt's to bitch and moan. some bitch and moan more than others. They're money hungry

Does any one have a guide with pictures on a complete installation of a nvt350 transmission? I just need to see if anything disconnected while driving.

Your linkage would be the only thing that could've come loose that would cause that problem. Check your linkage if thats fine and the clips are there you must move on to consider replacing your tranny.

http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/neonfsm/2000/EPL_21.pdf start reading funky doctor

Originally posted by 420agreenvilleSC
http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/neonfsm/2000/EPL_21.pdf start reading funky doctor

156 pages of massive confusion lol. Thanks ill try to take a look at the shift cables and see if everything is in place. Car goes into 1st, 3rd, and 5th gear no problem. 4th gear goes in sometimes but 2nd and reverse dont even hear a clack that told me I was in gear like before :(

Just a quick update trying to get some answers sorry if I'm asking too much don't know a thing when it comes to transmissions. Still wont reverse at all but 2nd and 4th work sometimes. Also the car can go into 2nd, 4th, and reverse with out even holding down the clutch which is pretty odd. Still feels very loose like nothing is holding it into gear but stays in so any ideas from somebody who has experienced this problem?

Oh yea just found out the linkage is fucked up and loose on the bottom gears. If I pull the linkage manually by hand into 2nd, 3rd, or reverse gears and start up the car they work flawlessly but when I am in the car and shift gears from in there they don't engage properly and all I end up doing is revving the engine.




Here is a pic when I put it into 4th gear from inside the car using the shifter.





And here is a pic when I put it into 4th gear by messing with the linkage from outside the car.




BIG DIFFERENCE!!!!! Same goes for 2nd and reverse. So 2gnt any write ups on how to fix this, I really don't want to mess it up anymore than it is right now.

Are they BENT? They look like they are hooked up fine your horseshoe clips are there. Other than the fact that they look bent it looks fine but it could just be the angle of the pics. Good job on those pictures by the way.

The bushings are probably shot. Remove the metal pin holding the washer down and examine the bushing. if it's all fuckered up, you can replace them with "windshield wiper motor mount bushings" from the "HELP!" section of your local autoparts store - remove the metal sleeve in the wiper motor bushing and cut the rubber you have left in half. it'll pop right into the eyelet on the shifter cable.

You can also use skateboard bearings for bushings. They fit perfectly.

Originally posted by adamzty
You can also use skateboard bearings for bushings. They fit perfectly.

Really? My bushings are a little worn it shifts decent but could be better I might just do that lol.

Originally posted by adamzty
You can also use skateboard bearings for bushings. They fit perfectly.

best mod next to the symborski shift kit.

Well just finished checking and Im stumped guys. The bushings and bearings are fine but my horseshoe clip is bent and cracked at the top. I hammered it back into shape to see if it would hold and it did but I noticed that the shifter cable is bent at an almost 90 degree angle. Is this normal? When ever I try to shift into a bottom gear it does not even push the link forward but instead the metal braided cable part bends downwards moving the link no where. I need help fast so if someone can take a picture of their cables that would be really great.

So here are some more pics which shows the rubber piece broken off revealing the cable that is bent. My theory is the horseshoe clip bent adn came loose causing the cable to work in an awkward manner leading it to break out of the rubber piece and eventually bending.

I would get another cable...

Today I'm going to try to make it to the junkyard and take one off a neon since there is never an eclipse with parts left when ever I go. Just need to know how to take it out since the cable goes all the way through the firewall into the shifter.

Well its been a while but I ended pulling of some shifter cables off of a 1997 RS at the junkyard and installed them a couple of days ago and now its back to normal. Thanks for all the help guys and now I know who to turn to for 2gnt related problems.

Originally posted by Tuxdreamerx

Originally posted by bullettdsm

Originally posted by Tuxdreamerx Either will work. I used dealer fluid just because I didnt know about the other. Your tranny is most likely going to continue having problems since you ran it on low fluid.

True dat. I run Amsoil in my vehicles. In addition to the fluid, check and see if either of your horseshoe clips fell off. They are the clips that hold the shifter cables to the tranny. Could be just coincidence that they came off when your fluid was low.

Haha I forgot about that I have lost those damn clips 3 times since I got my car running last year. I dunno why they fall off so easily. Then again my car rides pretty rough.

Forget to install these the first swap i did.. man i felt like an idiot, i was stumped for about 2 months.