honestly i know exactly how to get there and the fastest way, which is the 5 to 57 (sorry so all those guys that said 405) but you know what? can i meet up w/ you at ur 405 place or whatever it was anyways, so we can caravan up there, i'd rather do that then drive up there by myself, just let me know where will be best for you and i'll be there, and we can caravan up there. and a note: please guys, go easy on me, its my first meet. and btw i posted it on the calender already (thinking that's what im suppose to do since i starting the thread (gosh i such a newb) ;( (wish i were as experienced as you guys)