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438, Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by xEclipsE RaceRx, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
After school I raced my friends 96 auto basic mustang with 150 Hp. We were both travling at 40mph and had a rolling start I was beating him up until we reached 70mph, then he passed me up. Im thinkin I was doing sumthing wrong. While we were at 40mph I had it in 4th and when we took off I downshifted to 3rd and I was in 3rd for the rest of the race and we got up and over 70mph, my rpm meter was goin up so slow, I was waiting till it got between 6-7 to shift so I could use all of 3rd gear, is it good to use all of the gear or should I have shifted into 4th earlier?


1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 10th Anniversary Edition
- Weapon R1 Atom Bomb Exhaust

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439, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by RSin oRACLe, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
with just an exuast no ... but with intake header pulleys .. hells yea with no problem .. im surprised u lost to the auto


440, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by Thunderous_Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
if you were going 40 you should've dropped to 2nd, 2nd goes up to about 60 or so.
441, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yup second goes to almost 65 mph then take 3rd to 90mph at 7000 rpm or to 100 mph at 7200 rpm.


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MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
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442, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by VX100, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
are you a 5 speed or an auto?
443, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by xEclipsE RaceRx, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
5 speed, but sum guy at school said that I shouldnt drop it to 2nd cuz he had a friend who did that in sum other car and it blew his engine or sumthing. I am all stock on my GS except my lil weapon r1 muffler. I probably only get about 2 horses out of that huh?


1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS 10th Anniversary Edition
- Weapon R1 Atom Bomb Exhaust

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444, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by Thunderous_Talon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
simple and short, your friends an idiot. if you have power left to get, get it.
445, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by Fast420A, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yup, just know in each gear where the MPH and RPM match up. 1st gear redline is about 40mph, 2nd gear redline is about 65 mph 3rd gear redline is 95 mph 4th gear redlines about 120 and I can't get 5th gear to redline.




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Perf:
KYB AGX Struts
Neuspeed Sport Springs
5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L)
Sprint Front Camber Kit
$15 Rear Camber Kit
Corbin's A/F Gauge
MSD DIS-2 Ignition System
Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have)
Ported Intake Manifold
Ported Throttle Body
Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox
Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler
Empty Catalytic Convertor
Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts
Hurricane_GS Short Shifter
Symborsky Shift Kit
Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular
225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires


Audio:
Alpine CD Head Unit
Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears
Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs
Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears
Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears
3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono

446, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by EsiTalon96, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
You cant get 5th gear to redline because of the govener, there is a get rid of the govener but you have to make sure you have Z-rated tires.



447, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by SaberKhan, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Ok, I replied to this in another post, but oh well. :P There is no governor on the 95-99 nonturbo Eclipse/Talon. Nada. None. =o) That mod is for the 4G63 powered turbo car. They reason they have the speed limiter is because the tires on a stock GS-T were H rated. GSXs come with Z rated tires, and therefore dont have a speed limiter.
448, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by SaberKhan, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Actually, you shouldve beaten that Mustang if youre driving your car properly. Then again, I'm not sure. I know the GS Sport is a good bit heavier than my RS. Based on the weight of an RS, stock for stock, an RS should win. Mustang = 150hp at the fly, RWD so figure in a 20% drivetrain loss and 3150lbs or so. RS = 140hp at the fly, FWD so figure in about a 15% loss, though I've heard 18% and 2850lbs or so. So, based on weight and power, the Eclipse should win, if driven properly. Also, when going 40mph, I've always found its great to blip the throttle and downshift to 2nd. I love going from a 40mph roll. Downshift, grab second, chirp the tires and tear off. :D Only going to 3rd definitely hurt you.
449, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by HadesOmega, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Haha those mustangs are shit, I've driven one and it feels like a boat, like a little mini van bwahaha. I'll still remember that one night when i was with my friends, they raced a Manual Mustang GT on a 3 lane light and we beat it with a Toyota Sienna full of peeps and a Automatic Impreza 2.5RS (might I add I beat that Impreza 2.5RS nearly stock). Those mustangs are weak dude small game.

Oh yeah when you downshift you should double clutch dude, it'll save wear and tear on your tranny and clutch. haha blow up your engine, depends on the situation and speed your going. :P
450, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by xcasbonx, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
my friends got a 96gt, he hopes that i will race him sometime, i dont know though, hes got a 5spd, and i got the AT, need some tips so i can whoop him ;)
451, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by fatchance, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
>my friends got a 96gt, he hopes that i will race him
>sometime, i dont know though, hes got a 5spd, and i got the
>AT, need some tips so i can whoop him ;)

ummmmm shoot his tires out?
452, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by fasterGS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
>my friends got a 96gt, he hopes that i will race him
>sometime, i dont know though, hes got a 5spd, and i got the
>AT, need some tips so i can whoop him ;)


Go turbo??? Nitrous?? Jet engine on the back?? seriously, your not gonna beat a v8 stang unless you go turbo or nitrous.
453, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by DSBLK93GT, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
>Haha those mustangs are shit, I've driven one and it feels
>like a boat, like a little mini van bwahaha. I'll still
>remember that one night when i was with my friends, they
>raced a Manual Mustang GT on a 3 lane light and we beat it
>with a Toyota Sienna full of peeps and a Automatic Impreza
>2.5RS (might I add I beat that Impreza 2.5RS nearly stock).
>Those mustangs are weak dude small game.
>
Uhh..I hope you are joking about the Mustang GT. Even the slowest GT..94-95 Auto will do 15.9?? Hell my 93GT when still Auto with just a K&N and pullies ran 14.907@ 94...so good luck

You should have easily wooped that V6 stang though..145 HP and heavy..stock with auto they run 17s!!!! And they call them Mustangs...disgraceful..
454, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by Michael_97RS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
With regards to the GT
a.) Driver sucked
b.) Car had an exhaust and they only thought he was racing :-P
c.) Car had serious problems and needed to see a mechanic.

Una salus victus.
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455, RE: Was I suppose to beat a 150 HP Mustang?
Posted by wakebord99, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
HA Mustang GTs are a joke. The new ones are even slower than the 5.0s. I was pissing on them before i rebuilt my engine. Just stage II.

O- and as far as the govenor goes.. Yep i can red-line in 5th.. the rev limiter does suck though.. 170s just isn't fast enough.. did u know a vette can go faster than 170.. Damnit !!!




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